Tower of Gargalesis (Tickling RPG M/F, F/F, F/M)

[Lummie]

The other idea is have it designed that it could remember how much essence you gathered so you don't have to give it all in one go (unless this is already a function).

This is exactly why we, or at least I had trouble understanding your problem. You don't have to give it all in one go, so yes, that function is allready in there.

 

[Abadon XXX1]

Okay, never mind then ^^;

 

[DeusExProcella1]

I may add a function where you can tell her how much Essence you want to give in the next beta simply because Essence WILL have a new function in the coming updates...I'll see how difficult that would be to implement.

 

[Bashiku]

Deus look it this way... in first 45 minutes we collect around 5000 Essence and buy all things we can... after that we have nothing to buy. So it isn't much problem if essence can't be decided how much you will give and besides it is fairly easy to collect more...

 

[colisto]

alright i completely understand the idea of what your saying and i love the thought that its not going to be like a normal rpg with more strategy involved then brute force grinding.

my only problem that i have atm is that i personally like to e prepared for a battle i dont want to go in there and hope for the best. i want to make sure that i can go in there and for the most part be in control. although in this game im starting to realize that's not necessarily always going to happen.

my main concern with what your saying is my first instinct to losing a battle is go lvl. i can try to avoid this thought but one thing i would like to get across is the idea that im heavily concerned about the idea of accidental leveling. cause if your at the "chapter quota" for your level and you level up one more time? then your completly screwed (from the sounds of things)

another thing, there are a bunch of good reasons to run from a random battle. low health, waist of your time, not wanting to level... wait what? im not joking when i say that if im running form random battles and my reason for doing so is "i dont want to level" then i personally think theres something wrong.

my next biggest problem is the fact that your telling us grinding is bad and yet your also telling us that the next boss is next to impossible... so i mean how the heck are we expected to beat this boss if she is next to impossible to beat? i wana know cause im using a mage, i understand making it so beating the bosses requires thought over action. but if im losing at the Level Quota because im just not powerful enough i also think theres something wrong...

these are just some concerns i have. your doing a great job and i dont want you to think i hate where your going. but i just want to voice my opinions so you could posibly take them into consideration before finishing everything. its ok to nerf power levelers but if it means punishing accedental leveling i think you might be taking it a bit far.

if i think of any thing else atm then i will try and say it but for now thats it.

 

[Bashiku]

I think he is trying to achieve Final Fantasy 8 idea. There when you level up, all fiends level up so that they can still be a challenge to you. Still there is difference between players leveling and fiends leveling. For starters players have items and different leveling curve, while bosses will have a level curve, which I think he intends to make lower, but still challenging.

 

[colisto]

I think he is trying to achieve Final Fantasy 8 idea. There when you level up, all fiends level up so that they can still be a challenge to you. Still there is difference between players leveling and fiends leveling. For starters players have items and different leveling curve, while bosses will have a level curve, which I think he intends to make lower, but still challenging.

challange is understandable but when if by accedent you do something the game dislikes and you get punished for it thats screwed up

ok i am officially pissed off... why? WHY THE HECK DID YOU DO THIS? i just decided to do a theif, everything was fairly smoth (used a lot of tomato juice) untill i got to lady *****!.... this @$^%%#$ *#%$^ keeps WHORING the daze move. and its not just that, because you decided to give her a healing move now i have a time limit to get in each hit otherwhise she gets her health back... OH MY $^%#$%$ GOD! so not only dose she use this move that STALLS ME FOR 3 @$%#^%# TURNS! but then i have to recover from this move for at least 2 #$%^@%$ TURNS!.... and by the time im done with all that every last bit of damage i did to her is gone... i know the theif is supposed to be hard... but venus isnt even the last boss its not even the last boss of the main story if im having this much trouble MIND YOU its not necessarily my skill its more so HER #$%#%^$ BULL @#$% !## MOVES! that she uses at the PERFECT @#%$#%% TIME EVERY TIME!... i finally got a good thing going on her but she lasted through 19 and one half tomato juices and i still couldnt beat her.... she used the BULL @#$@ daze move on me 8 #$@%$%& TIMES!!.... now my honest reaction at this point would be maybe i should level up but because you hate grinding that would just make it harder apperently....

im sorry, ive just tried to beat her 5-6 times lost EVERY TIME and 2-3 of those times it was because i pressed GIVE UP due to it being on top and me being irritated because she is a total @#$%#% #%$@^ !@# ***** WHO LIKES TO @#$% #$% @$% %#$% 😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed

THATS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO HOW PISSED I AM RIGHT NOW >.<...

again i would like to appologise for my language and my yelling but i am REALLY PISSED....

 

[DeusExProcella1]

Deus look it this way... in first 45 minutes we collect around 5000 Essence and buy all things we can... after that we have nothing to buy. So it isn't much problem if essence can't be decided how much you will give and besides it is fairly easy to collect more...

Just wait until 3.1...that won't be the case any more.

 

[Xtreme09]

Just wait until 3.1...that won't be the case any more.

Speaking of 3.1, were you able to finish the bar quest? What do you need to make now?

 

[Carnivore]

I'm coming out in favor of the leveling system. As a thief, I beat the bosses 9 times out of 10 at level 3/4, with the armor, Small Feather, and about 20 tomato juices on hand (you don't even need that many, but by Lady V you're definitely rich). If you're having trouble at those levels, here's some strategy: anytime you're 30 points down, always use tomato juice. Don't cut it close ever. Also, always tickle spots: each monster's got one, find a turn to use an energy drink if need be. You'll do fine.

The problem with over-leveling is (I'm guessing, I haven't done it): the lack of new stuff to buy. If you're both lvl 6, and each doing 50 per hit, tomato juice is officially useless. You're armor is probably crap now, too. You can't buy the ultimate armor/potions yet, because all you've done is knock off about 80 fairies. You're gruff salesman is unimpressed.

So relax. Instead of thinking about power, think about strategy. Where do you need to tickle and when? How can you get the best stuff at the best times (hint: beat Aello ASAP for the harpy feather, at lvl 3 its pointless). There's no healing magic, so this is a potion intensive game. As evidence: the potions are very cheap and effective.

That isn't to say you don't fight at all. As a thief, you should be stealing constantly during the HB quest, so you'll have tons of loot. As an archer, observing everyone (even bosses on turn 1) is worth it for HP and their tickle map.

Those lvl eleventy characters you've got? I'd start over. Again, this game isn't about brute strength, its about tickling. If you're really stuck, try going with a Soldier or Slayer instead of a mage, but with proper strategy, I don't think its necessary.

 

[Lummie]

challange is understandable but when if by accedent you do something the game dislikes and you get punished for it thats screwed up

ok i am officially pissed off... yadda yadda

again i would like to appologise for my language and my yelling but i am REALLY PISSED....

Dude, take some pills, smoke some weed, whatever but chill.

 

[colisto]

I'm coming out in favor of the leveling system. As a thief, I beat the bosses 9 times out of 10 at level 3/4, with the armor, Small Feather, and about 20 tomato juices on hand (you don't even need that many, but by Lady V you're definitely rich). If you're having trouble at those levels, here's some strategy: anytime you're 30 points down, always use tomato juice. Don't cut it close ever. Also, always tickle spots: each monster's got one, find a turn to use an energy drink if need be. You'll do fine.

The problem with over-leveling is (I'm guessing, I haven't done it): the lack of new stuff to buy. If you're both lvl 6, and each doing 50 per hit, tomato juice is officially useless. You're armor is probably crap now, too. You can't buy the ultimate armor/potions yet, because all you've done is knock off about 80 fairies. You're gruff salesman is unimpressed.

So relax. Instead of thinking about power, think about strategy. Where do you need to tickle and when? How can you get the best stuff at the best times (hint: beat Aello ASAP for the harpy feather, at lvl 3 its pointless). There's no healing magic, so this is a potion intensive game. As evidence: the potions are very cheap and effective.

That isn't to say you don't fight at all. As a thief, you should be stealing constantly during the HB quest, so you'll have tons of loot. As an archer, observing everyone (even bosses on turn 1) is worth it for HP and their tickle map.

Those lvl eleventy characters you've got? I'd start over. Again, this game isn't about brute strength, its about tickling. If you're really stuck, try going with a Soldier or Slayer instead of a mage, but with proper strategy, I don't think its necessary.

ok i've calmed down sence then but i still am irritated the problem i have is i went through 19 and a half tomato juices trying to beat her, and that was a good game, why did it take me so long? because she cept healing then stunning. i swear after all is said and done she goes back up to half health i then started to be reckless after i realised i was going no where fast on her body and it still didnt work (worked better then being cautious but still)

the problem with your suggestions? is i know this, i had to play her (now that i think about it) more then 8 times i did take those opportunities to find what works best. the problem is not in the begining but after she goes through her cenimatic thing after that she digs down and starts to heal this would be fine if she stuck to spots but every once in a while she will eather use the vines or use that daze move that i LOVE SO MUCH. then by the time i recover (as in the move ends and i get my health to a safe level) she heals back to where i started at if not more then. the worst part is i cant even let my life go down to 30 points, i have to heal at around 40 something cause if she uses that daze move im screwed. like i said its not just one thing its the combination of having to keep my health high, having her heal herself, having her have this game changing move that she used on me 8 times (and yes i counted), and having to pay attention to my adrinaline. lastly i also have to hope she dosnt pull some totaly annoying thing that makes me lose...

again i understand the point of stopping power leveling, but i also understand that some time in the future im going to end up leveling by accident and the entire game is going smack me down because of it. not to mention how much Deus is going on about how the next chapters boss is really hard and if your a mage or theif good luck... my problem is again instinct tells me to level up higher.

to an extent i actually like the harpie feather better then the small feather mainly because of the speed boost. if im not mistaken the only thing that "proficiency" increases is your normal attack (and i think the special ability for the slayer) so if your useing the target things? having that small feather is entirely pointless, unless im mistaken if i am i probably can beat venus alot easier then i thought, i might give that a quick test just to make sure but hey im not making any promises.

that is true, but trying to steal from venus dosnt really help me in the long run imo

well i am actually planning on restarting my mage when the next chapter comes around because she's 6 <,< but honestly other then the bunny i have had absolutly no problems with the mage whatso ever its just the theif vs venus thats getting me stuck. i mean though i will admit the slayer was just ridiculous. (by the end i was doing upwords of 100 and some odd damage with her lethal tickle XD) honestly i just wanted to test out a few of the other charicters to get a feel for the full game. rather then just one aspect. although im curious as to how it teaches you how to surrender cause that technique is going to be SOOOO useful against beating mosters right? XD

now that i calmed down ill probably give venus another go, sooner or later but untill that point im going to try the other charicters first.

Dude, take some pills, smoke some weed, whatever but chill.

I AM CALM!!!! 😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed XD

 

[DeusExProcella1]

ok i've calmed down sence then but i still am irritated the problem i have is i went through 19 and a half tomato juices trying to beat her, and that was a good game, why did it take me so long? because she cept healing then stunning. i swear after all is said and done she goes back up to half health i then started to be reckless after i realised i was going no where fast on her body and it still didnt work (worked better then being cautious but still)

the problem with your suggestions? is i know this, i had to play her (now that i think about it) more then 8 times i did take those opportunities to find what works best. the problem is not in the begining but after she goes through her cenimatic thing after that she digs down and starts to heal this would be fine if she stuck to spots but every once in a while she will eather use the vines or use that daze move that i LOVE SO MUCH. then by the time i recover (as in the move ends and i get my health to a safe level) she heals back to where i started at if not more then. the worst part is i cant even let my life go down to 30 points, i have to heal at around 40 something cause if she uses that daze move im screwed. like i said its not just one thing its the combination of having to keep my health high, having her heal herself, having her have this game changing move that she used on me 8 times (and yes i counted), and having to pay attention to my adrinaline. lastly i also have to hope she dosnt pull some totaly annoying thing that makes me lose...

again i understand the point of stopping power leveling, but i also understand that some time in the future im going to end up leveling by accident and the entire game is going smack me down because of it. not to mention how much Deus is going on about how the next chapters boss is really hard and if your a mage or theif good luck... my problem is again instinct tells me to level up higher.

to an extent i actually like the harpie feather better then the small feather mainly because of the speed boost. if im not mistaken the only thing that "proficiency" increases is your normal attack (and i think the special ability for the slayer) so if your useing the target things? having that small feather is entirely pointless, unless im mistaken if i am i probably can beat venus alot easier then i thought, i might give that a quick test just to make sure but hey im not making any promises.

that is true, but trying to steal from venus dosnt really help me in the long run imo

well i am actually planning on restarting my mage when the next chapter comes around because she's 6 <,< but honestly other then the bunny i have had absolutly no problems with the mage whatso ever its just the theif vs venus thats getting me stuck. i mean though i will admit the slayer was just ridiculous. (by the end i was doing upwords of 100 and some odd damage with her lethal tickle XD) honestly i just wanted to test out a few of the other charicters to get a feel for the full game. rather then just one aspect. although im curious as to how it teaches you how to surrender cause that technique is going to be SOOOO useful against beating mosters right? XD

now that i calmed down ill probably give venus another go, sooner or later but untill that point im going to try the other charicters first.



I AM CALM!!!! 😛issed😛issed😛issed😛issed XD

I haven't finished reading the post, BUT want to clarify something:

Your Proficiency directly affects the strength of your Target skills. And any other skills that I've deemed fall under a more "physical" category. The Target skills specifically are meant to be an extension of your regular "Tickle".

The next chapter's boss IS really hard...she's also not done. She's just got her basic attack pattern out. I haven't designed the other aspects of the fight yet. Pay attention when the next beta comes out, you might find a few new things that I haven't even mentioned here.

In regards to the Daze Spore, I've given it a very big change. Venus (and the Knismeshroom, but no one seems to complain about them) can only use it 3 times in the next update. So since some characters seem to get unlucky and get spammed with it, I've added that precaution.

Also a note about the chapter 2 boss. That public service announcement? That's going to be implemented by 3.1, so use that to decide how to tackle bosses from now on 😉.

That said, right now it feels like your only options are "Grind grind grind" but by the end, you'll have tons of options available to you, so don't feel completely screwed yet. This IS just a beta so far.

 

[colisto]

I haven't finished reading the post, BUT want to clarify something:

Your Proficiency directly affects the strength of your Target skills. And any other skills that I've deemed fall under a more "physical" category. The Target skills specifically are meant to be an extension of your regular "Tickle".

The next chapter's boss IS really hard...she's also not done. She's just got her basic attack pattern out. I haven't designed the other aspects of the fight yet. Pay attention when the next beta comes out, you might find a few new things that I haven't even mentioned here.

In regards to the Daze Spore, I've given it a very big change. Venus (and the Knismeshroom, but no one seems to complain about them) can only use it 3 times in the next update. So since some characters seem to get unlucky and get spammed with it, I've added that precaution.

Also a note about the chapter 2 boss. That public service announcement? That's going to be implemented by 3.1, so use that to decide how to tackle bosses from now on 😉.

That said, right now it feels like your only options are "Grind grind grind" but by the end, you'll have tons of options available to you, so don't feel completely screwed yet. This IS just a beta so far.

so yeah i actually did a quick test before i even came on here, and i found that out lol i geuss i should be useing the small feather on my theif XD....

VICTORY IS MINE! XD

so yeah i beat her actually really easily, with little caution i was able to take her down with little problems now that i think about it it might have been easier for me to use normal tickle up until her cinematic then went for the gold with underarm tickling (still not even sure thats the best spot <,<)

well ill try and be more patient with it from now on XD srry for the yelling and screaming and thanks for the pointers i swear you said somewhere that the Proficiency only effected the main tickle >.>

 

[DeusExProcella1]

so yeah i actually did a quick test before i even came on here, and i found that out lol i geuss i should be useing the small feather on my theif XD....

VICTORY IS MINE! XD

so yeah i beat her actually really easily, with little caution i was able to take her down with little problems now that i think about it it might have been easier for me to use normal tickle up until her cinematic then went for the gold with underarm tickling (still not even sure thats the best spot <,<)

well ill try and be more patient with it from now on XD srry for the yelling and screaming and thanks for the pointers i swear you said somewhere that the Proficiency only effected the main tickle >.>

Unless you're a mage, Hips, Ribs, and Underarms should get the same result.

Otherwise, Fire > Grass

 

[colisto]

Unless you're a mage, Hips, Ribs, and Underarms should get the same result.

Otherwise, Fire > Grass

yup, btw on the fairy quest the one where you have to rescue the sailor? if you constatnly click on the guy who rewards you? he will constantly give you +1 to your rep also i dont think the 4 last quests actually reward you with the exp but i could be wrong...

 

[Bashiku]

I wonder... what do you fair how long will it take you to finish this up for whole game?

 

[Xtreme09]

yup, btw on the fairy quest the one where you have to rescue the sailor? if you constatnly click on the guy who rewards you? he will constantly give you +1 to your rep also i dont think the 4 last quests actually reward you with the exp but i could be wrong...

I got that too. I actually used it to test if there were any more quests available via rep.

 

[colisto]

I got that too. I actually used it to test if there were any more quests available via rep.

im guessing there weren't otherwise im sure you would tell us XD

 

[Xtreme09]

Nah I dont think there were.

 

[DeusExProcella1]

No there is nothing else available yet. That was a glitch on my part, the Fairy Quest originally had 1 more step, so I had the final event charted to that number, rather than the real end value (6 instead of 5).

@ Bashiku: Let's...not think about that <_<;;;;;;;;;

Also...FAS%!@_#$ I can't believe I left out the EXP updates...dammit.

I may get an update up tonight...depends on how fast the Super Bowl goes <_< I'm waiting until half time to pay attention (The Who ftw also go Colts)

 

[Nora-Rose21]

Possibly a dumb question. but what sort of update do you plan for tonight. @ more side quests or just correcting a couple glitches?

 

[DeusExProcella1]

Possibly a dumb question. but what sort of update do you plan for tonight. @ more side quests or just correcting a couple glitches?

Correcting glitches, a few tweaks to the system (nothing that will require a restart), at least three more quests accessible, a fix on the current chapter 2 quests not giving Exp, and a few tweaks to the boss battles.

This week I'll start on the Tower proper. I'm sorry if you don't like these smaller updates, but I'm doing this to catch glitches easier as they come up. If the general feel is that a full chapter update is preferable, I'll just do that, though.

 

[ultimatetkster]

Progress is progress. Better we start low and go slow rather than the other way around.

 

[Nora-Rose21]

Oh please don't get me wrong. I am not complaining in the least. I love this game and the rate your getting it out is phenomenal. I'm just being an eager little kid waiting for santa and trying to peek at my presents. take all the time you need and update how you please.