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DarthGrinn
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Tickling to torture? It's bad enough to use it on a consenting adult (and yes we are al ba-a-ad boys n girls here 😉 ), but to use it to bully a helpless child is just down-right despicable imo.
As for tickling kids in a non-sexual way; personally, I'd be careful. I'll admit, I've done this a few times myself; but thanks to my being raised with 5 younger siblings, I've learned how to handle kids with care: My parents trusted me to baby-sit and left me home alone with my siblings ever since I was 7. I learned to be very very responsible. So, as lame as this sound, I see all kids as my own lil bros and sisters... So, the few times I've tickled them I kept it short, gentle and safe.
My definition of short? Usually until the kid gives up, which has lasted anywhere from 1 second to 10 (15 if he or she was really stubborn). A big hint is them saying "stop" "please" "leggo" or whatever, or they'll run out of breath, or their laughter will get too desperate sounding.
My definition of gentle? Not gentle in a sexy way; but gentle as in "Don't crack the kids ribs with my meat hooks".
My definition of safe? If the kid squirms away, then let the kid go. If the kid says no, then stop.
Common sense applies here more than anything.
I remember one time (back in school, 9th grade) I was shooting hoops on my own, during lunch break, when this 5th/6th grader came up and stole the ball and was taunting me. I chased her, and asked her to give me the ball... she said no; I tickled her till she dropped it and went back to playing. (Note, there were teachers present and everything was done in full view)
Now, in retrospect, I was taking a huuuge risk; I could have hurt her, scared her or worst. She was one of the many young'ns who crushed on me and I was often surrounded by the rugrats during my lunch . Towards the end of the year it got so ridiculous that I couldn't even leave my class during lunch break; I would get mobbed by 3-4 class rooms of these Liputions all ranging from grade 3-6.
I helped them tie their shoes, protected em from bullies (6th grade boys can be such brats, I could never understand how a boy could pick on a girl half his size) and sometimes just listened to them rant on and on about their little lives... But I never once was an opportunistic tickler; I never once though "hey it would be so cool if I could just pin her down and..." To me that's just against everything I was taught to be as a guardian; so you can understand where I'm comin' from on the whole "lets tickle kids" issue.
Kids are playful, and tickling is a natural form of play. It'll happen, and when it does; they count on us to still be their guardians and ensure that they are safe and sound.
A year after I graduated, I remember hearing a story that one of the girls from 3rd grade ("Lil Alia", I called her. She was crazy about me) was molested by an older boy. Man, I just wanted the kids name and class number so I could go up in there and smash his face on his desk. He got expelled tho; thankfully Alia was a brave lil trouper and went straight home, told her parents and they came and made sure he left the school for good…
Too bad I had no way of trackin him down…
Kids are too trusting: That's a part of their purity. Everything they do is innocent (espeically the ones that think "I'm grown up now"); and we have to remember not to interpret their behavior and inject our own adult motives into it…
Hilarious graphic oriyaborealis 😀 and very appropriate for this topic 🙂
As for tickling kids in a non-sexual way; personally, I'd be careful. I'll admit, I've done this a few times myself; but thanks to my being raised with 5 younger siblings, I've learned how to handle kids with care: My parents trusted me to baby-sit and left me home alone with my siblings ever since I was 7. I learned to be very very responsible. So, as lame as this sound, I see all kids as my own lil bros and sisters... So, the few times I've tickled them I kept it short, gentle and safe.
My definition of short? Usually until the kid gives up, which has lasted anywhere from 1 second to 10 (15 if he or she was really stubborn). A big hint is them saying "stop" "please" "leggo" or whatever, or they'll run out of breath, or their laughter will get too desperate sounding.
My definition of gentle? Not gentle in a sexy way; but gentle as in "Don't crack the kids ribs with my meat hooks".
My definition of safe? If the kid squirms away, then let the kid go. If the kid says no, then stop.
Common sense applies here more than anything.
I remember one time (back in school, 9th grade) I was shooting hoops on my own, during lunch break, when this 5th/6th grader came up and stole the ball and was taunting me. I chased her, and asked her to give me the ball... she said no; I tickled her till she dropped it and went back to playing. (Note, there were teachers present and everything was done in full view)
Now, in retrospect, I was taking a huuuge risk; I could have hurt her, scared her or worst. She was one of the many young'ns who crushed on me and I was often surrounded by the rugrats during my lunch . Towards the end of the year it got so ridiculous that I couldn't even leave my class during lunch break; I would get mobbed by 3-4 class rooms of these Liputions all ranging from grade 3-6.
I helped them tie their shoes, protected em from bullies (6th grade boys can be such brats, I could never understand how a boy could pick on a girl half his size) and sometimes just listened to them rant on and on about their little lives... But I never once was an opportunistic tickler; I never once though "hey it would be so cool if I could just pin her down and..." To me that's just against everything I was taught to be as a guardian; so you can understand where I'm comin' from on the whole "lets tickle kids" issue.
Kids are playful, and tickling is a natural form of play. It'll happen, and when it does; they count on us to still be their guardians and ensure that they are safe and sound.
A year after I graduated, I remember hearing a story that one of the girls from 3rd grade ("Lil Alia", I called her. She was crazy about me) was molested by an older boy. Man, I just wanted the kids name and class number so I could go up in there and smash his face on his desk. He got expelled tho; thankfully Alia was a brave lil trouper and went straight home, told her parents and they came and made sure he left the school for good…
Too bad I had no way of trackin him down…
Kids are too trusting: That's a part of their purity. Everything they do is innocent (espeically the ones that think "I'm grown up now"); and we have to remember not to interpret their behavior and inject our own adult motives into it…
Hilarious graphic oriyaborealis 😀 and very appropriate for this topic 🙂
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Celtic_Emperor
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My opinion is it's better to just stay clear of this alltogether. There are too many complications to contend with, morally and legally and lines are blurred in the process. If you feel a sexual attraction to tickling children and underagers then you need to control yourself and possibly get help. That's how pedophiles are born, otherwise. Feelings they should have for adults or peers exclusively, they have for children and that, in my opinion, is a mental abnormality, that, if ever entertained, can lead to mental illness and of course a potential victim in an innocent child. Even if you did just tickle them, it's more trouble than it's worth.
Look at it this way: if you would have to make excuses for tickling a child, then you've no business touching them at all, since your motives are not entirely pure.
In the instances where it's your own child, if you're tickling them because you have a fetish then you have no business touching them that way, I think. It is morally uncooth and your children are being made, unwittingly, a part of it. They don't know the difference in emotion, but if you're so much as getting any kind of tingling in your pants or satisfaction or whatever you need to stop and think about what you're doing before you create something perverse between you and your children.
This is a cautionary to any parent with a fetish. You have an extra responsibility placed upon you because of your fetishes. You need to keep your fetishes in check around your kids and don't involve them, in any way, shape, or form, into your adult apetites. Don't expose them to anything even when you would consider it "tame" or "ok things to do to a child/around a child". Just because they're not aware doesn't make it right.
You're supposed to be their guardians, and that includes protecting them from YOURSELVES if need be. You shouldn't be taking any situation with them for granted or using it selfishly for personal entertainment.
Theres never a real, necessary reason to be tickling a child anyway. You may say there is, but there never actually is. Tickling is optional. And because it is optional you have the choice to omit it from your physical interaction with children. There are other ways and other forms of interaction to be just as playful without touching.
To do so, in this day and age, with the law being the way it is, would be playing it safe. A child, when touched that way, may inteprete it differently, report you, and then you're in a fix.
"BUT I JUST TICKLED HER! I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANY HARM DONE!" isn't going to hold up in court, especially with that kid's parents pushing for a punishment and coaching her.
And all of this because you wanted to rake your finger against a kid's side for a couple seconds to see if she'd giggle or whatever?
So TOTALLY not F*CKING WORTH IT!
Use your damn brains, people, and more common sense! You're already smart enough to know the situations you should avoid, so avoid them! It's not hard at all.
If you feel that you HAVE to tickle a kid or WANT to risk it, then you're a liability unto yourself and shouldn't be crying to no one when and if your underage activities catch up with you. You've crashed and burned on your own. You sure as hell can't blame the kid. 🙄 😛
"That kid tricked me, officer! She was asking for it!"
...yeah right. Just shut up before you make it worse...LOL
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And oh yeah, that Predator picture is awesome, oriya! 😀
Look at it this way: if you would have to make excuses for tickling a child, then you've no business touching them at all, since your motives are not entirely pure.
In the instances where it's your own child, if you're tickling them because you have a fetish then you have no business touching them that way, I think. It is morally uncooth and your children are being made, unwittingly, a part of it. They don't know the difference in emotion, but if you're so much as getting any kind of tingling in your pants or satisfaction or whatever you need to stop and think about what you're doing before you create something perverse between you and your children.
This is a cautionary to any parent with a fetish. You have an extra responsibility placed upon you because of your fetishes. You need to keep your fetishes in check around your kids and don't involve them, in any way, shape, or form, into your adult apetites. Don't expose them to anything even when you would consider it "tame" or "ok things to do to a child/around a child". Just because they're not aware doesn't make it right.
You're supposed to be their guardians, and that includes protecting them from YOURSELVES if need be. You shouldn't be taking any situation with them for granted or using it selfishly for personal entertainment.
Theres never a real, necessary reason to be tickling a child anyway. You may say there is, but there never actually is. Tickling is optional. And because it is optional you have the choice to omit it from your physical interaction with children. There are other ways and other forms of interaction to be just as playful without touching.
To do so, in this day and age, with the law being the way it is, would be playing it safe. A child, when touched that way, may inteprete it differently, report you, and then you're in a fix.
"BUT I JUST TICKLED HER! I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANY HARM DONE!" isn't going to hold up in court, especially with that kid's parents pushing for a punishment and coaching her.
And all of this because you wanted to rake your finger against a kid's side for a couple seconds to see if she'd giggle or whatever?
So TOTALLY not F*CKING WORTH IT!
Use your damn brains, people, and more common sense! You're already smart enough to know the situations you should avoid, so avoid them! It's not hard at all.
If you feel that you HAVE to tickle a kid or WANT to risk it, then you're a liability unto yourself and shouldn't be crying to no one when and if your underage activities catch up with you. You've crashed and burned on your own. You sure as hell can't blame the kid. 🙄 😛
"That kid tricked me, officer! She was asking for it!"
...yeah right. Just shut up before you make it worse...LOL
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And oh yeah, that Predator picture is awesome, oriya! 😀
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omg awesome post vlad omg hahaha oh wow
ps get a brain morans
psp i mean pps:::: if anyone wants to whine about the sexual predator image call the wambulance for the sand in your vagina caused by emo weeaboo mental anguish and they will help you by giving you linkin park cds to listen to you whiny sycophant hypocrite i mean god i should send a liger in your direction
JESUS CHRIST ITS A LIGER GET IN THE CAB AND WHEN IT CAME NEAR THE LICENSE PLATE SAID FRESH AND IT HAD A DICE IN THE MIRROR
ps get a brain morans
psp i mean pps:::: if anyone wants to whine about the sexual predator image call the wambulance for the sand in your vagina caused by emo weeaboo mental anguish and they will help you by giving you linkin park cds to listen to you whiny sycophant hypocrite i mean god i should send a liger in your direction
JESUS CHRIST ITS A LIGER GET IN THE CAB AND WHEN IT CAME NEAR THE LICENSE PLATE SAID FRESH AND IT HAD A DICE IN THE MIRROR
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oriyaborealis said:
"Go call 9 waaah waaah" as it's said. LOL
Does anybody else thinks the guy in that picture looks like Jesse "The Body" Ventura (aka- James George Janos) ? XD
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Excellent points, and very well stated.Vladislaus Dracula said:
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MistressValerie said:
I actually typed that in a rush as I was getting ready for church. But I guess it's all the same if you agree. Thank you. 😱
Journia said:
I don't know what it is, but this last week has been very productive for me. Everything turns up/out the way I want/need it to and nothing has gone wrong. I've either gotten my groove back or am experiencing some good karma.
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Ya, good points Vlad. I agree wholeheartedly.
We should make this a sticky so that threads on this topic shouldn't ever have to be started again; imo the answer is clear (it's wrong), and there really isn't any room for debate on the matter.
We should make this a sticky so that threads on this topic shouldn't ever have to be started again; imo the answer is clear (it's wrong), and there really isn't any room for debate on the matter.
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rtl said:
Thank you. 🙂
The sticky is a good idea, but then it itself is an eyesore after a while. When people are browsing, they don't want to have to see at the top "underage tickling". It's quite uncomfortable a topic for enough people as it is, that they don't need to see it always at the top.
Also, we cannot reasonably stop people from talking about it in the future if they wish to. If not for this opportunity I would not have been able to make the points you agree with, nor would any of the others who made good points as well.
As long as the majority of people who would read these threads agree that it's wrong, then we've nothing to worry about and we can afford to let them sink past page 1, and then into the older pages.
In cases where people bump these threads after they've expired, then it's more of a rules-orriented thing, and should be handled by the moderators.
Given the subject however, I don't see many of these topics popping up too often in the future.
Once enough people realize this topic is not taken to kindly by parents, conservatives, religious, child rights advocates, etc., (of whom we have many here), theres less a reason for them to bother since the conversation will be one-sided- a natural deterrent.
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Hmm...I have a marvelous idea. There should be a forum...in a galaxy far far away for underage tickling. That way, anytime there is a person interested in it, they could go there instead of here to vent. After all, if it is going to make so many people wonder why, and make many people angry, there should be one, an active one albiet so that they do not have to worry about it and bring the subject back. After all, I have checked ticklish subject.com, and it is seriously not really...um...how you say... sufficient?
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I Get'cha Vlad. Its funny that this is a fetish forum, yet there are so many of us who are openly religoius/conservative lol...
My gf always tells me that there's a difference between "pervy" (as she calls me) and "perverted"... I just adore how she thinks sometimes. Don't ask me the diff, I dont geddit, but according to her "pervy" is a good thing while "perverted" is bad.
ROTFLMAO @ "in a galaxy far far away"
Jabba the Smut eh? 😛
Or Obi Wan Kaboney?
Or Jar Jar Kinks?
okay I'm gna stop now...
My gf always tells me that there's a difference between "pervy" (as she calls me) and "perverted"... I just adore how she thinks sometimes. Don't ask me the diff, I dont geddit, but according to her "pervy" is a good thing while "perverted" is bad.
ROTFLMAO @ "in a galaxy far far away"
Jabba the Smut eh? 😛
Or Obi Wan Kaboney?
Or Jar Jar Kinks?
okay I'm gna stop now...
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Funny....Jaba the smut...hehe.
Lando Calwizzian....
Darth Beater....
Storm Poopers...
Princess Lay up....
Luke Skyfucker....(scratch that)
Anadick skywalker......
Darth Spermious
Senator Jack O. Popateen
Obi Long Cannoli....hehehe
Lando Calwizzian....
Darth Beater....
Storm Poopers...
Princess Lay up....
Luke Skyfucker....(scratch that)
Anadick skywalker......
Darth Spermious
Senator Jack O. Popateen
Obi Long Cannoli....hehehe
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Nearly all of these "underage" threads are started for trolling purposes, but sometimes they turn into good discussions. This thread stayed mostly civil and was interesting to read.
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rtl said:
That shouldn't be surprizing. You're normal people like everyone else.
(sorry if when I say "you" and "you're" it seems disrespectful. It's just that I am not a fetishist, so it feels odd to include myself into these types of situations as if I am)
rtl said:
I can tell the difference.
She knows the difference between a real pervert and you.
Theres no way for her to compare you to a real sleaze-bag because you're not one (I have to assume lol). 😀
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MistressValerie said:
I think trolling is obvious in most cases. And when it's not, it's almost always a give-away after a short of ammount of time.
I think a good strategy is to use a troller's attempt as an opportunity for a discussion (if desired) and just flat out ignore them. It's cases like this where I would agree with thread hijacking, as we're turning something negative into something positive and, at the same time, are denying the troll and their effort.
If theres one thing a troll hates more than being ignored, it's at seeing the "fruits of their labor" being used against them. Should they interject further, it's that much easier and valid to punish them, as then their intent to start a riot will have been revealed.
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Vladislaus Dracula said:
Don't worry man, I know what you mean 🙂 Glad to see y'get where I'm comin from. Yes "us" freaks can be very normal lol (I wouldn't be suprised if the majority of us are, despite popular opinion).
It seems this topic has winded down (thankfully) I just posted to acknowledge Vlad's post in reply to my earlier.
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