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[Mitchell]

Babyshambles, what I'm about to say is meant to be constructive, and with the utmost sincerity.

Up until about three years ago, I was one of the most flamboyant members of this forum. I wanted to talk to every new girl, and ask her questions about tickling and feet, and I got into arguments in many threads in the P and R. Needless to say, I was very high on the mods trouble list.

It reached a point where I got a PM from the mods telling me that if I didnt stop my actions, I would be banned the next time someone complained. I remember feeling angry at the time, and wanting to tell off the mods publicly, and such in a basically "Fuck You, All, Goodbye thread" to the forum. After thinking it over carefully, I decided I had two choices, do that, and get banned for good. Or, try to slowly keep a lower profile, with the hope, that over time, I could become just another member of the forum, who the mods didnt have to go after all the time, and, as such, I could enjoy my forum experience more, and they didnt have to worry about me being around.

In my over three years since doing this, things have gotten much better. I enjoy the forum more, and the mods dont have to watch out for me, (I hope) seeing what thread Mitch is going to post to piss people off, or such. Have I gotten into occasional disputes since then? Of course. However, I can now discuss an occasional dispute with the mods, as something that just arises, instead of it being how Mitch was pissing everyone off as often as I was.

I strongly suggest that you try this, babyshambles. I have a feeling that if you do, in time, the mods will begin to think "Hmm, he's no longer a problem anymore, he's just another forum member" Additionally, other forum members will begin to view you more positively.

I hope what I'm saying helps. Good Luck to you.

Mitch

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

Likewise, skip. Why should Shambles walk on eggshells so you don't have to control your anger? Take responsibility for what you say and do! (damn, I can't find my angry face icon)

Why does it seem like no one besides Vipor and Shambles (very passively) are taking responsibility for this mess? From what I've read, its been one huge blame game and shit storm coming from one side without any compromise whatsoever. "Baby needs to do this... TMF should do that... nah, nah, nah nah!"

I don't know if you guys are just looking for a scapegoat or what, but some of you need to get off the internet.

I'll go first!

Please point out to me where I told him to speak to me more delicately so that I don't fly off the handle? I have never once not taken responsbility for what I said, so what you're saying really has no merit whatsoever. Good try though.

 

[Sammy Scales]

shithead

the shit you cause

shithead

"shithead"

crap-stirring

He brought his shit to TK.

Stop starting shit and no one will be able to accuse you of starting shit.

some filthy piece of trouble-causing shit.

shit stirring

If I start shit, a shit-stirrer.

the ongoing shit-storm

Isn't that stirring shit though? Wasn't aforementioned shit being stirred?

a shithead and a shit stirrer

One of the things she called you was a "shit stirrer/starter". Jeff called you a shithead.You stirred shit.

shitstorms

But you've stirred shit in the past.

shit storm

shit stir

So what's the theme here again?

Ah yes, now I remember...

 

[Tickler15]

In all honestly, I don't think Shambles was purposely trying to be a jackass, I don't feel he came across the thread and said "Hey, this guy is having a shitty day, lets make it even shitter!" I think he tried to offer some constructive advice that wasn't nessescary to offer at the time and it came out sounding like he was trying to hurt Goth. So in other words, Shambles, maybe you were inadverntly (sp?) an asshole, and maybe you should of waited a little while before telling Goth you opinion. And maybe some members of the TMF could of told him that a little nicer....

 

[badreligion]

So what's the theme here again?

Ah yes, now I remember...

I loled .

Why doesn't this thread just get locked ?

 

[skips]

I'll explain exactly why... it's because you have a pattern of harassment and trouble-starting, and generally being mean and viscious. That attitude reached it's limit for me when you went into goth's thread about how he might have lost saeria and started pissing all over their relationship.

Then when confronted about it, you were an even bigger, meaner shithead.

You've been warned repeatedly, and when repeated warnings don't work, we eventually take stronger steps like this one.

stop speaking BS jeff you let your little followers get a way with anything

 

[skips]

You know.

People have said FAR WORSE things to me than anything I even put in that thread.

Maybe I would have apologised for causing unnecessary hurt, but instead I get Skip saying im stirring up shit and calling me a troll and jeff calling me a shithead and probably never having had a relationship.

Overkill.

I AM the one being hard done by here.

Can I make a request that all you lurkers and posters reading this who agree with me or are unhappy, don;t be afraid. Show your support in this thread.

Thank you.

support from me man

 

[badreligion]

stop speaking BS jeff you let your little followers get a way with anything

This won't end well .

 

[Tckleme]

I think that ban was stupid and unnessecary

 

[The Fallen Angel]

gotta love babyshambles new screen name http://www.ticklingforum.com/member.php?u=87458

its so subtile LOL

 

[Babyshambles]

gotta love babyshambles new screen name http://www.ticklingforum.com/member.php?u=87458

its so subtile LOL

I promised to say away for a while, but wanted to quickly say that I am not that member.

This can be confirmed though IP records and such like I would imagine.

 

[ViperGTS]

Bwaaahahahahaha that's awesome.

 

[CrystalLight]

No. I think it's that jk666uk blah blah guy. He was the one who was registered as 'skips' above. Just a guess.

 

[Wolf]

Just to point out

If Jeff and his 'little followers' were half as unfair as they're being accused of being, why are Babyshambles and his sock-puppet troupe still here, and still posting? Don't they have the ability to just bring down the hammer on anyone, for any reason?

 

[Onlyfornow]

Whew...

I just read the entire thread, and all I can say...this thread shouldn't exist. I've already told Babyshambles my opinion in private, and all I can hope for now is that this thread either be locked, moved to General, or simply ignored. I'm glad to see that we can finally rest.

Oh, and a quick lulz to the new poster "Skips"...whoever that is, they're clearly not as much of a "Guest" as he/she is trying to make us think. XD

 

[FeatherFeet]

Look, I don't know too much about anything going on here, tho I did go take a look at the other thread (and wasted like 20 mintues of my life i wish i could have gotten back looking over this one)

I just gotta say, alot of people here are being waaaaay over the top. I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, but there are so many negative emotions flying all over the place and it's not healthy for anyone. It's like a bad soap opera. Maybe the OP has been an insensitive one and maybe in some cosmic sense of karma (im not a judge or jury so i can't say) he deserved to be treated insensitivly back.

But one might have taken the simple precauton of overlooking his posts and letting his comments bounce off you if they were that hurtful. Afterall, this is an internet fetish forum people, once in awhile you are going to get someone who says something you dont wanna see. (kinda surprised Goth posted a thread about such a personal matter in such a public venue, would have prolly made more sense to IM or PM his closer friends about the stress than put it out for anyone to have at it, but I suppose he is distressed, dealing with that, and i hope all that works out)

But serously, you all (all used in a general term) need some lessons in Zen. Even if the OP was pushing, you all just pushed back, instead of letting the negative energy be redirected to cause no harm. Now, he is banned, and whether or not you wanna admit it, we have all seen people who have been overlooked for saying horrible things whether because of their popularity, or just the sheer size of these forums, so in a way there is a bit of unfairness there. We all know life isn't fair and maybe he deserves it, but you are giving him a leg to stand on--and looking very childish in the process. (no offense)

A better solution might be to simply realize the realtiy of this being the internt, not actually some perfect fantasy world of peace (however beautiful that might be) and realize that there will be some jerks here or there, and not get so bent out of shape about it. I mean, seriously, who is really the victim when you respond to that? Maybe he'll eventually get banned, but the negative emotions still fly, and still leave bad traces.

One might say "when he's gone it'll all be good!" but remember, it takes two chemicals to cause a reaction.

Sorry if I've offended anyone with the above post.

 

[drewskee]

I lurk for the most part and don't really get involved with the community, and even I think Babyshambles is a total asshole. I've never seen a good post come from this guy.

Honestly, though, I believe it's a mental disorder. He's either trolling, or he unconciously insults others and generally says stupid things, believing himself to be adding positively to the conversation, then when something is said in retaliation, he posts threads in an attempt to gain sympathy.

Not to mention that he continues to stick around and post in a place where it appears absolutely no one likes him.

Oddness.

Precisely.

However, as much as I hate to admit it, the threads involving his shit-stirring behavior (yes I said it because that's what it is) are rather amusing at times, or at the very least a decent way to kill time.

 

[Babyshambles]

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[Wolf]

Very astute observation.

I lurk for the most part and don't really get involved with the community, and even I think Babyshambles is a total asshole. I've never seen a good post come from this guy.

Honestly, though, I believe it's a mental disorder. He's either trolling, or he unconciously insults others and generally says stupid things, believing himself to be adding positively to the conversation, then when something is said in retaliation, he posts threads in an attempt to gain sympathy.

Not to mention that he continues to stick around and post in a place where it appears absolutely no one likes him.

Oddness.

I can only add that negative attention is still attention; if a child doesn't get attention in a positive manner, they'll act out to receive it in a negative manner.

 

[goddess_nemesis]

If Jeff and his 'little followers' were half as unfair as they're being accused of being, why are Babyshambles and his sock-puppet troupe still here, and still posting? Don't they have the ability to just bring down the hammer on anyone, for any reason?

Many people want to paint Jeff and the other mods as unfair and biased people who favor certain people, when in fact that's not true.

This is owned by Jeff. He doesn't have to let babyshambles stay and post at all. The fact he's still here says everything you need to know about how fair Jeff is and how willing he is to give people second chances.

What you do with those second chances are up to you. Some here know first hand and have changed their behavior because Jeff and/or the other mods gave them a second chance to do so. Others refuse to change, hence full banishment from the forum. And from what I understand they've only banned very, very few people from the forum completely.

 

[lenjo]

Proverbs 15:1

LenJo

 

[drewskee]

I can only add that negative attention is still attention; if a child doesn't get attention in a positive manner, they'll act out to receive it in a negative manner.

Very true. However, this is a grown-ass man (I presume) we're talking about here, not a child.

 

[MrInc]

Nice, 12 pages of a drama thread. Can we close this or move it to some less-traveled forum instead of a place where it clearly doesn't belong in the least?

 

[drewskee]

Nice, 12 pages of a drama thread. Can we close this or move it to some less-traveled forum instead of a place where it clearly doesn't belong in the least?

I honestly don't know how it's even survived more than a couple pages. Somebody's asleep at the wheel.

(That was just a figure of speech, by the way. No insults to the mods intended whatsoever)

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

I honestly don't know how it's even survived more than a couple pages. Somebody's asleep at the wheel.

(That was just a figure of speech, by the way. No insults to the mods intended whatsoever)

I tend to think the mods have a method to their madness, and this thread, rather than slipping through the cracks, is highly monitored and allowed to continue to exist for a reason.