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No one can take you seriously. Where you go, shitstorms tend to follow. People get very angry at the things you say.

I would recommend, being that you are the common denominator in these situations, that you take a step back. Stop posting in threads. Take a few days, a few weeks, a few months, however long it takes for you to try an examine the way you interact with people, off of the forum. Relax.

Come back in a while, a new man, and try again, and maybe people will be more willing to listen to what you have to say.

Trust me. I've been there.
 
You reported Skip's post. One of the things she called you was a "shit stirrer/starter".

Jeff called you a shithead.

You called Jeff out.

You stirred shit.

... Muhhh ... Doesn't that make Skip's comment a valid one and actually not an insult?


You can't pre-emptively call someone a shit stirrer because you think they may act become a shit stirrer in the future. It doesn't work like that.
 
sorry to disagree ray, but i was called a troll and a shit stirrer by skip, and then when i reported this to a mod i got a mail from jeff calling me a sithead and then i publicly called jeff out

You have the right to disagree but you must admit that I have tried to steer you in a different direction on more than one occasion to no avail...you say you want to "contribute" and yet you continuously stir up things even when asked to back off...

You have no right to "call out" Jeff or any mod here.....what they say goes.....if you were upset with a personal comment made in pm, then you should have discussed it there and not been even more ignorent on the open forum trying to gain sympathy from others...most of those who have been giving you their "support" are only doing so because they themselves have issues with how they believe a privately owned forum should be run....

You reap what you sow.....and many other cliches that fit your behavior here....

I feel sorry for you if you really dont see what you have been doing here, but I have no reason to believe that is the case...
 
Cheers,

I appreciate it.

No one can take your seriously. Where you go, shitstorms tend to follow. People get very angry at the things you say.

I would recommend, being that you are the common denominator in these situations, that you take a step back. Stop posting in threads. Take a few days, a few weeks, a few months, however long it takes for you to try an examine the way you interact with people, off of the forum. Relax.

Come back in a while, a new man, and try again, and maybe people will be more willing to listen to what you have to say.

Trust me. I've been there.
 
GR Violation, non-GR, just an opinion, blah blah fucking blah. You'll never own up to the faults you've made because you seek to justify every word you make. That's your prerogative. But don't get bent when people call you on your shit.

People seem to get defensive and more hostile when they're approached in a defensive or demeaning manner. Wouldn't you agree? I mean, you said "when people call you on your shit" but everyone knows when someone says they're "calling someone on their shit" they're simply excusing their verbal behavior towards someone they want to punish.

Honestly, this whole debacle was interesting and something I learned from. I've never watched human behavior on an internet forum before like this. But, this is definitely a winner. I should write my thesis in psychology on internet arguments.
 
Well perhaps.

But she could have said it more delicately, given my well-known inclination to fly off the handle at the slightest personal criticism

As delicately as you put your opinion out to Goth?

Wow....
 
Well perhaps.

But she could have said it more delicately, given my well-known inclination to fly off the handle at the slightest personal criticism

I just went back and read that thread.

You had the audacity to turn what was a member's support thread into attempting to tell the owner of the forum what to say?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Here's something constructive. Stupid, Simple or Slow?
 
Well perhaps.

But she could have said it more delicately, given my well-known inclination to fly off the handle at the slightest personal criticism
While name-calling of any sort isn't condoned, that you "fly off the handle at the slightest personal criticism" isn't an excuse at all; rather, it's an admission of a major problem that you really need to work through before you think of posting anything controversial. It's like the P&R forum: if you can't take serious and heated disagreement with what you say in P&R, we strongly advise you to stay out. Same thing here; if you can't or don't want to handle criticism, don't post something that will even have a chance of inviting it.
 
Well perhaps.

But she could have said it more delicately, given my well-known inclination to fly off the handle at the slightest personal criticism
Yeaaaah - let me just walk on eggshells so you don't have to bother controlling yourself. Lord knows I wouldn't want the blame for you flying off the handle to fall on my shoulders.

Bullshit. Take responsibility for what you say and do.
 
I just went back and read that thread.

You had the audacity to turn what was a member's support thread into attempting to tell the owner of the forum what to say?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Here's something constructive. Stupid, Simple or Slow?

i suppose this has run its course.

i dare say a younger, fresher me would have found the wherewithal to argue for another hour abour being called slow, but as it is i only want to repond another two more times in the hope of gaining a new feather, and earning newfound respect in said accomplishment
 
Wow, thisis a hugh thread for only being up for about 6 hours. I do not understand the extent of the infraction in question [as I have not ready the original problem] and I was only able to get to #24 in this thread. [the negative banter back and forth was too much for me since I am not involved]. 😉

Since I am trying to be more active here lately I figured I would add my two cents as well. Reguardless of what happened or who misunderstood what, the solution is simple.

Babyshambles, if you are unhappy here with the people that are core members and they are making your lurking on this site unpleasent why do you honestly come back [or at least comtinue to post anything]. I am not taking sides with anyone, I am simply trying to cut to a root solution. If I had a place I went regularly and no one there really wanted me around and I was not really happy when I was there, I would just stop going there and try to forget that place and those people. :beathorse:

From what it sounds like, they are not banning you from the site so if you still want to be here by all means lurk on. However if no one really wants to hear your opinions then why try to force others to do so. [Espescially online, it is a loosing battle] At the end of the day the people online are not in your life [unless you are lucky enough to actually meet them in person regularly] so why let them bring you down more than you seem to be already.

Again I am not taking sides just trying to add so various helpful thoughts from various philosophies.

I would like to finish by saying.............HI EVERYONE!!!! :angel: :yourock:
 
Yeaaaah - let me just walk on eggshells so you don't have to bother controlling yourself. Lord knows I wouldn't want the blame for you flying off the handle to fall on my shoulders.

Bullshit. Take responsibility for what you say and do.

good point
 
a very good point.


Wow, thisis a hugh thread for only being up for about 6 hours. I do not understand the extent of the infraction in question [as I have not ready the original problem] and I was only able to get to #24 in this thread. [the negative banter back and forth was too much for me since I am not involved]. 😉

Since I am trying to be more active here lately I figured I would add my two cents as well. Reguardless of what happened or who misunderstood what, the solution is simple.

Babyshambles, if you are unhappy here with the people that are core members and they are making your lurking on this site unpleasent why do you honestly come back [or at least comtinue to post anything]. I am not taking sides with anyone, I am simply trying to cut to a root solution. If I had a place I went regularly and no one there really wanted me around and I was not really happy when I was there, I would just stop going there and try to forget that place and those people. :beathorse:

From what it sounds like, they are not banning you from the site so if you still want to be here by all means lurk on. However if no one really wants to hear your opinions then why try to force others to do so. [Espescially online, it is a loosing battle] At the end of the day the people online are not in your life [unless you are lucky enough to actually meet them in person regularly] so why let them bring you down more than you seem to be already.

Again I am not taking sides just trying to add so various helpful thoughts from various philosophies.

I would like to finish by saying.............HI EVERYONE!!!! :angel: :yourock:
 
No one can take you seriously. Where you go, shitstorms tend to follow. People get very angry at the things you say.

I would recommend, being that you are the common denominator in these situations, that you take a step back. Stop posting in threads. Take a few days, a few weeks, a few months, however long it takes for you to try an examine the way you interact with people, off of the forum. Relax.

Come back in a while, a new man, and try again, and maybe people will be more willing to listen to what you have to say.

Trust me. I've been there.

A clear example of someone redeemed......trust me folks, Viper and I have blown up more than our share of threads over the years. We're not buddies are but are at peace. Viper has grown into a man with his own plan and has even taught me how to grow up and I'm old enough to be his mother......actually he might be younger than my children. Personally, I think an offender has the best perspective and advise for others. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

A time comes when you want to be your own person and let's face it, sometimes you have to deal with the man in the mirror and make some serious changes. You have to be accountable for what you say around here, plain and simple. Until you truly come to terms to the drama and nonsense you've caused shambles, you're going to always be the victim. Is that where you really want to be??
 
I lurk for the most part and don't really get involved with the community, and even I think Babyshambles is a total asshole. I've never seen a good post come from this guy.

Honestly, though, I believe it's a mental disorder. He's either trolling, or he unconciously insults others and generally says stupid things, believing himself to be adding positively to the conversation, then when something is said in retaliation, he posts threads in an attempt to gain sympathy.

Not to mention that he continues to stick around and post in a place where it appears absolutely no one likes him.

Oddness.
 
Yeaaaah - let me just walk on eggshells so you don't have to bother controlling yourself. Lord knows I wouldn't want the blame for you flying off the handle to fall on my shoulders.

Bullshit. Take responsibility for what you say and do.

Likewise, skip. Why should Shambles walk on eggshells so you don't have to control your anger? Take responsibility for what you say and do! (damn, I can't find my angry face icon)

Why does it seem like no one besides Vipor and Shambles (very passively) are taking responsibility for this mess? From what I've read, its been one huge blame game and shit storm coming from one side without any compromise whatsoever. "Baby needs to do this... TMF should do that... nah, nah, nah nah!"

I don't know if you guys are just looking for a scapegoat or what, but some of you need to get off the internet.

I'll go first! :yayzorz:
 
Shit ain't gonna change.

This whole thread as amusing as it's been is fucking pointless.
 
Hey man...things is things. It was probably never going to go anywhere in the first place.

I think it's a good way to kill a boring night personally.
 
The blatant ignorance annoys me.

Despite the shield of an internet, it reminds me I have to share a form of society with folks like that.
 
Why is this thread open still or ever?

Clearly this is a attention thread, whether a woe is me thread or a I am bored and like to shit stir and kill time. Irregardless its not a tickling related post so its in the wrong forum and I feel annoyed enough to post in here to satisfy Shambles supposed ego to need to draw attention to it

If anyone was truly sorry or interested in any concept on this forum, it would be made thru PMs

The very fact that you state that you expect to be banned is proof that you are trying to draw attention to yourself

Wow, for once i defend Mods and the status quo?
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The blatant ignorance annoys me.

Despite the shield of an internet, it reminds me I have to share a form of society with folks like that.

Somewhere in the world, a mass grave is being filled with bodies.

I walk on the same plane of existence as butchers, rapists, murderers.

I have witnessed men call themselves Christ and suck their believers into the abyss.

This is hilarious. And if folk want to send a negative message, they can post more in the thread, and make it into a situation where if you behave a certain way, you think twice about this ire.
 
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