Youtube Childporn

[PenMasterRule]

Ace Riley:

How interesting that you would say this too. 🙂 Like a lot of the tickling done on Youtube!

You think you caught me in some sort of trap?

Yet my interpretation of your sig fueled by my perverse fetishes can somehow make your signature into something far worse than it is. Is that your fault or mine? Is it the artists? How about the parents of that artist? Suddenly we get at the root of this issue, which is perverts enjoying harmless, nonsexual tickling done by RL Lolis who you feel don't know any better.

You do realize that was taken from an anime which was produced by a company which is ran by full grown adults right? And there is nothing remotely sexual about that scene. If you get off on it then it's your fault. But you haven't caught me in some kind of trap. You could have just as easily taken this image here... http://www.ticklingforum.com/smiles/microsmiley.gif and said you got off on it and tries to make some kind of point. But it falls moot. Even if these grownups are requesting these kids to tickle each other for fun it's still wrong!

Can you see why I find this thread kind of silly in the first place?

No I can't. And if you found this thread silly why post? I mean as far as I know your trying to defend these people (or are one of these people) making these requests. Because I swear that argument you just used about the 'so-called innocents' of these children is exactly the same argument used by someone trying to say it's ok for adults to request this sort of thing.

 

[PenMasterRule]

How interesting that you would say this too. 🙂 Like a lot of the tickling done on Youtube!

Yet my interpretation of your sig fueled by my perverse fetishes can somehow make your signature into something far worse than it is. Is that your fault or mine? Is it the artists? How about the parents of that artist? Suddenly we get at the root of this issue, which is perverts enjoying harmless, nonsexual tickling done by RL Lolis who you feel don't know any better.

Can you see why I find this thread kind of silly in the first place?

And yes, they are Lolis.

I love how you just edit these posts...

I think your problem is you have some sort of kid complex because this anime is not sexual in nature. I wouldn't post something about kids if it was sexual in nature. Yet your pointing one out and claiming you have some sort of perverse fetish for it. I think you are trying to justify yourself. Why would you come here and do that?

 

[Mystery2009]

I love how you just edit these posts...

I think your problem is you have some sort of kid complex because this anime is not sexual in nature. I wouldn't post something about kids if it was sexual in nature. Yet your pointing one out and claiming you have some sort of perverse fetish for it. I think you are trying to justify yourself. Why would you come here and do that?

Well Pen, can I call you Pen, maybe thats because this is an adult website based around a tickling fetish. So if the stuff you want to post has anything to do with kids+tickling it then = sexual by virtue of the fact that this is a Tickling Fetish web site.

 

[PenMasterRule]

Well Pen, can I call you Pen, maybe thats because this is an adult website based around a tickling fetish. So if the stuff you want to post has anything to do with kids+tickling it then = sexuals by virtue of the fact that this is a Tickling Fetish web site.

I have no idea what you are saying.

 

[PenMasterRule]

Well Pen, can I call you Pen, maybe thats because this is an adult website based around a tickling fetish. So if the stuff you want to post has anything to do with kids+tickling it then = sexual by virtue of the fact that this is a Tickling Fetish web site.

Are you trying to accuse me of something? Do you have any idea whatsoever about what I'm talking about? Or what I've posted? I have never once posted something that involved children being tickle tortured.

 

[MrMacphisto]

Yeah youtube can sometimes have some scary people on it... like this guy....

 

[PenMasterRule]

Yeah youtube can sometimes have some scary people on it... like this guy....

That damn bear again!

 

[Ace Riley]

I honestly think you're confusing yourself for entertainment purposes. If anyone else can find any failure of logic in my posts please go ahead and add to this, or not.

I can't talk to you Penman, I did get you in some sort of trap and the fact you couldn't understand the logic shows that you really don't understand the issue in itself, and my efforts to communicate with you have been totally fruitless because you're already antagonistic from the start.

So like I said on the first post of this page, I really have nothing to say to you. I'm not defending anyone, and no I'm not going to take offense at you insinuating that I would be of that mentality. You're taking what is basically a nonsexual activity being perverted by individuals that you say put a sexual spin on something that is otherwise innocent, then saying that the parents are responsible for somehow protecting them and to stop them from doing these nonperverse things on the internet because somebody out there might see it as such.

This is why I caught you in your bullshit Strawberry Marshmallow explanation, because yes, it is nonsexual to you, to someone it may be (gasp). This is not your fault, nor the artists, yet somehow the artist, the parent of that picture has to think about that before publishing it? Parents should not have to anticipate the actions of their kids online due to some fucking pedos online. We agree, they should just be parents and hope their kids aren't as fucking stupid as you think "most of them" are. Feel free to disagree with me all day, doesn't change the reality of the situation. Which I think by now is a dead horse being pounded on to pulp.

I honestly tried to imply a few things because I highly overestimated your ability to analyze information. Let me be blunt. Kids will continue to post whatever they fucking want. Adults will continue to fap to whatever it is they want, from watching paint dry to trampling scat/bukkake videos, and parents will continue to be parents and keep their kids safe regardless of what the TMF decides to think on the subject.

 

[PenMasterRule]

Ace Riley:

I honestly think you're confusing yourself for entertainment purposes. If anyone else can find any failure of logic in my posts please go ahead and add to this, or not.

Again I have no idea what your talking about and I think I already say the failure in your posts. Even before you edited them.

I can't talk to you Penman, I did get you in some sort of trap and the fact you couldn't understand the logic shows that you really don't understand the issue in itself, and my efforts to communicate with you have been totally fruitless because you're already antagonistic from the start.

My pen name is 'Pen Master Rule' not 'Penman'. No you didn't get me into some sort of trap. I understood what your saying perfectly, what you don't understand is the difference between an adult requesting children to do something they find sexual. No instead you tried to point at something and claim you find it sexual and that's everyone's fault. I know what this issue is about. I think your the one who doesn't understand. And I think your giving up because you can't convince me otherwise.

So like I said on the first post of this page, I really have nothing to say to you. I'm not defending anyone, and no I'm not going to take offense at you insinuating that I would be of that mentality. You're taking what is basically a nonsexual activity being perverted by individuals that you say put a sexual spin on something that is otherwise innocent, then saying that the parents are responsible for somehow protecting them and to stop them from doing these nonperverse things on the internet because somebody out there might see it as such.

I knew it. You are defending this because you don't think it's wrong. It is wrong and you are in the minority here. When I see these people giving instructions to kids on tickling each other then yeah it's wrong. And it's sexual in nature.

This is why I caught you in your bullshit Strawberry Marshmellow explanation, because yes, it is nonsexual, to someone it may not be. This is not your fault, nor the artists, yet somehow the artist, the parent of that picture has to think about that before doing it? Parents should not have to anticipate the actions of their kids online due to some fucking pedos online. We agree, they should just be parents and hope their kids aren't as fucking stupid as you think "most of them" are.

lol you didn't catch me in any bullshit. You took something innocent and turned it around into something sexual. Adults asking kids to tickle each other is not innocent!

I honestly tried to imply a few things because I highly overestimated your ability to analyze information. Let me be blunt. Kids will continue to post whatever they fucking want. Adults will continue to fap to whatever it is they want, from watching paint dry to trampling scat/bukkake videos, and parents will continue to be parents and keep their kids safe regardless of what the TMF decides to think on the subject.

I think the TMF has already decided. What's going on is wrong. They have decided that. That's why people can't post anything involving minors. You act like this is still up for debate.




Main line is this..... Adults asking kids to tickle each other is wrong regardless if it's innocent or sexual in nature. Simple as that.

 

[vsa7a]

wow this thread still open??



one time i was surfing for some tickling and other relations on youtube and i came across a video that said some girl was being tickled. the preview was too dark to make out so i decided to check it out and lo and behold it happens to be some parents tickling a little maybe 7 year old girl's feet. now what was appalling was not the video itself because i understand it just basically some parents with their daughter, but i happend to notice some comments one in particular that caught my eye was....something like

'uh yeah cute girl. but arent they supposed to be 18?'

i would say...

um no numbnuts. she isn't supposed to be 18 as this is not porn nor is it if you think TMF and it is especially NOT something you jack off too.

such a ****** whos a fucking retard like him is if i find him i would personally kick him in the nuts, castrate him, and shove them up his mouth as well as a beating upside the head and chastise him on the matter 'get your head out of your ass'.

on different notes theres kids like pre-teens and teenagers under 18 who do dares just because they are bored off their ass and/or young and fun and want to be retarded. but yet still when these faggots see their feet or had a preview of their soles they would comment something like..

'i want to jerk off to or have sex with this'

or anything pertaining to or related to 'but sex this...' BULLSHIT

some of the names are rather protuberant throughout any such tickling clip on youtube asking for any 'FETISH' RETARDED SHIT 'show your feet', 'do a feet tickling contest' etcetera.



anyway i expect these fucktards are not TMF members and TMF members would have more class than that. these are just random and some of them persistent jacker-offers who to simply put needs to be kicked in the nuts hard and their ass thrown in jail fast.

this is one reason i as a social scientist try to restore 'tickling' = 'tickling' a human relations matter. the 'FETISH' bullshit or whatever word or 'yes, it is all sexual' mentality the rest of you use seriously gots to go. learn to have discipline and/or self control and take control with the organ in your skull rather than the organ in your pants. quit your sexual deviations and GROW THE FUCK UP. get rid of it with your addict, your fucking bad habit.

 

[Mystery2009]

Just wanted to retract my comment about Pen. He pm'ed me and told me he was on the good side of this little thread (aka against child content).

 

[PenMasterRule]

Just wanted to retract my comment about Pen. He pm'ed me and told me he was on the good side of this little thread (aka against child content).

I appreciate that. Thank you.

 

[PenMasterRule]

This could be a good sign; I checked Youtube earlier tonight and found that some of those "tickle dare" clips have been removed. Hopefully they're catching up with this.

That is great news.

 

[smoothacer409]

yo

The Answer to this is simple friends....i have already started this myself and it works....when u see these dares...simply send a message to the girls calmly explaining that their are freaks out their who will try to take advantage of their kindness...i've done that three times and all three times the removed the videos

 

[texastickler]

I have got to say i have not seen this but it makes me sick. I love kids. My goal is to finish school and be a teacher. If I did come across something like this I would be outraged. Kids have no idea what sickos think and do when they see stuff like this on internet sites. I will report anything I find.

 

[Raytheon]

Child porn is wrong full stop but in cases like this id say the children are just as much to blame. 14 year olds arnt stupid so tell me why when someone asks them to strip down to their underwear and tickle each others inner thighs do they do it? Id argue, in todays society where you have young teens dressing in hot pants and boob tubes to sneak into nightclubs with fake IDs for sex does the man always automatically get the blame?
Sorry for ranting but here in the UK you cant walk down a high street any more without seeing pre teen girls in hot pants and camel toe undies. 25 year old chav men who screw these girls every night for money and drugs get away scott free when the teen goes on to get pregnant. BUT when a decent law abiding man like myself gets caught out chatting up a 15 year old girl in a nightclub who should be 18, who looks in her 20s, why should i take the fall? 🙂

my 2 cents 🙂

 

[Radiohead 7140]

It seems everyone is on board that the pervert who solicits these videos to be made is doing something that can be probably argued as illegal and can be definitely argued as disgusting and terrible.

I think the issue that's still open as of now is the criminality and/or inherent evilness of the people who take no action to cause these videos to exist, but watch them and enjoy them in a sexual way.

Crysal brought up the valid point that this behavior can lead to indulging this fetish in more dangerous, real-world ways. But Samantha's counterpoint that perhaps having this "porn" as an outlet is preventative from taking real actions.

So what about the people that purely watch it, and can be reasonably assumed to take no action other than watching shit that's already online?

(I just want to say, for the record, that I do find the material offensive/disgusting/etc and don't in any way support people watching it. But I think we're all in agreement there, so I'm not gonna waste much of this post complaining how highly fuckin outraged I am about its existence. The treatment of the people who watch it is a much more interesting debate IMO.)

Haribish called these people evil, and said they should be thrown in jail. I'm inclined to disagree if, again, all they are doing is watching without causing anything to happen. You can't help what arouses you. You are responsibile for knowing what sexual activities are legal. A pedophile who creates or in any way participates in child pornography, is knowingly breaking the law and should be punished. The person who doesn't, but jerks off to youtube clips created by teenagers (either by dare or by choice), should get counseling. And to be honest I'd argue that this should only be enforeceable because of the aforementioned danger that he could act on these urges.

But, if I'm not mistaken, it is illegal to have child pornography on a computer even if you were not in any way involved with its creation. Is that correct?

Please, don't attack. I don't want to come across sympathetic to child abusers, but to have a modicum of understanding that something in their brain chemistry and life experience caused this arousal to develop. We're fortunate to have developed, for whatever reason, an extremely innocent fetish. But I'm sure there are those out there that would say "oh my god that person tickled my kid once!" if they found out. Again, not comparing the 2. I just think the inactive pedophiles probably need help, not jail-time and condemnation to hell....

 

[rhiannon]

I just think the inactive pedophiles probably need help, not jail-time and condemnation to hell....

I totally agree. I think part of the problem is that everybody publically condemns pedophiles. So they don't even dare to go get help most of the time, out of fear that they will be judged.

I am pretty sure that there are way, way more pedophiles who never act on their urges than there are who actually do molest a child.

 

[fucuupsum]

the world is a messed up place

 

[helplessandhappy]

I've seen things like that on Youtube and it upset me too. Parents really, REALLY need to do a better job of watching what their kids are doing online.

 

[TripleH1]

While it's certainly gross and wrong, I doubt highly parents are concerned about Youtube tickle requests and more about sexual predators online.

 

[desperado_flare]

The clothes stay on, but thats pretty much what it is.

As someone who works with kids in a social service capacity, it's tough to know where to start on how dangerous and misguided the sentiments being expressed in this thread are.

A large part of my job is to defend kids from the people around them who want to take advantage of them sexually. Things like molestation, rape (statutory included, though it's far more common for kids to be molested/raped by a peer than an adult) and other forms of legitimate sexual abuse are things that I regularly deal with in my population.

We're talking about tickling. Please, please don't group legitimate sexual abuse in with tickling. I'm trying to defend kids from being violated in ways that can have lasting consequences for the rest of their lives, and you guys are talking about stopping random internet strangers from getting their jollies off to toes being tickled as if it's equally as urgent.

I always advise parents to review videos their children want to place online before they upload them, and to remind their children not to post anything that they aren't comfortable with the whole world seeing. That's the best you can do.

Scaremongering and witchunting creates an immensely damaging sense of distrust amongst communities, where kids start to treat everyone around them like a potential predator. This only serves to foster more unhealthy behaviors, paranoia, and dangerous sexual deviancy spawned from a fear of societal backlash.

Please, keep things in perspective.

 

[Wesker28]

Actually a child/teenager tickling another teenager and filming it is perfectly innocent. It is the people that exploit them by giving them ratings, and prey on them that are the problem, which unfortunately happens all the time.

Considering that we have thousands of politicians, judges, police, corporate executives, and bankers that are a fan of child abuse, youtube being full of it really doesn't surprise me! Some of these so called subscribers are probably bankers and politicians.

 

[Oddjob0226]

Seriously?

That's precisely what makes them ignorant. They should have been educated prior to them getting onto whatever website they so choose. And I really HIGHLY doubt that ANY good parent with any bit of common sense whatsoever would let their 12 year old on the internet without having talked to them about internet predators - especially in this day and age. What fucking 12 year old decides that it's ok to put their face out there online? A stupid one. You don't need to look at everying as having sexual connotation to know not to put your fucking face on YouTube for all pedophiles to whack off to. I simply do not believe that the majority of those sweet, innocent, and unaware little kids don't know about sexual predators.

This is more so aimed at parents: if you're going to allow your 12 year old brat to run willy nilly all over the internet and YouTube, then you're just asking for something like this to happen.

Pretty much this, I think, is accurate.

We're talking about tickling. Please, please don't group legitimate sexual abuse in with tickling. I'm trying to defend kids from being violated in ways that can have lasting consequences for the rest of their lives, and you guys are talking about stopping random internet strangers from getting their jollies off to toes being tickled as if it's equally as urgent.

I always advise parents to review videos their children want to place online before they upload them, and to remind their children not to post anything that they aren't comfortable with the whole world seeing. That's the best you can do.

Scaremongering and witchunting creates an immensely damaging sense of distrust amongst communities, where kids start to treat everyone around them like a potential predator. This only serves to foster more unhealthy behaviors, paranoia, and dangerous sexual deviancy spawned from a fear of societal backlash.

Please, keep things in perspective.

Pretty accurate, too, I'd say.

Lots of underage stuff was on the TMF in the old days for quite some time before they revised the policies (mostly to avoid legal issues as I understand it). It's still here in some threads. Don't know that anyone's gotten arrested off the TMF because of tickling related activity of any kind, including this, including the old-timers.

However, there are lots of foot fetish guys getting in trouble for unacceptable behavior even with people their own age involved. Whenever a foot fetish guy gets in trouble someone posts a story about it here on the forum and people post things like "That's the kind of behavior that gives fetishists a bad name."

Like we're so welcome otherwise.

 

[helplessandhappy]

Please, keep things in perspective.

If you think people masturbating to underage kids tickling each other in videos is at all okay, you're the one who needs a perspective shift.