Youtube Childporn

[starburstz91]

Seriously?

That's precisely what makes them ignorant. They should have been educated prior to them getting onto whatever website they so choose. And I really HIGHLY doubt that ANY good parent with any bit of common sense whatsoever would let their 12 year old on the internet without having talked to them about internet predators - especially in this day and age. What fucking 12 year old decides that it's ok to put their face out there online? A stupid one. You don't need to look at everying as having sexual connotation to know not to put your fucking face on YouTube for all pedophiles to whack off to. I simply do not believe that the majority of those sweet, innocent, and unaware little kids don't know about sexual predators.

This is more so aimed at parents: if you're going to allow your 12 year old brat to run willy nilly all over the internet and YouTube, then you're just asking for something like this to happen.

I don't think it's the child's fault at all.

How the hell are they suppose to know that there are some tickle freaks out there? May I mention that tickling is suppose to be something normal to society, and the only difference, for us, is the fact that it turns us on, or whatever? I think people just flip over the kids because it IS tickling, and because of that, we see it differently.

The only warning that children have about the uses on the Internet, are to not spread information on there, not to talk to anyone you don't know, not to meet anyone in person, and/or anything else that can involve sexuallity. It's not everyday that a parent will say "don't post videos of you tickling your brother because some adults have fetishes and may like that!".

I agree that it is wrong for an adult to like something as a kid to get tickled by another kid. However, I don't think it's the child's fault. I think ther were just having a weird moment, or whatever, and thought it was harmless. Like I said, nobody really gets warned nowadays that there's tickle freaks out there in the world.

 

[Lifeseeker]

I actually warned some of the kids on youtube who were getting these "dares" that they were being used by sickos. The kids got angry at me, and said I was "hating" on their vids.

Kids tend to think they know everything, which can be a big problem. (Youtube did delete those particular girls' vids soon after, fortunately.)

Owen, I did the same thing to a few kids, warned them about the nuts out there who are asking them to do this tickle to get their kicks.

It's just amazing how these perverts contact these people and ask them to "gag them" or "tickle them longer next time". Don't they have any idea that this is TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE???? You don't send a message to these innocent people and ask them to do something.

Just my two cents.

~L~

 

[xionking]

"Hey kiddo, you don't you take dem pants off?? It'll turn me on..."

Tickle fiends may as well ask that of them.

-Xionking

 

[tickler4u2]

I think the issue is not that it's innocent 12 year olds trying to gain fame, but the people behind the youtube posts. It sounds like they are pedophiles that are into tickling which doesn't bode well for the rest of us. I don't think it's innocent. I find it sick. I don't believe in exploiting children.

 

[tkpatience]

children and porn have no business being in the same time let alone the same sentence.

 

[tickler4u2]

I think that hits the nail right on the head. Thanks!

 

[tku]

...so...

Am I the only one who thinks these kids are just fucking stupid?

I mean, yeah, grr and all that. It is disgusting.

But...I mean. Stupid children.

+1

 

[Tissueboy]

Remember the pedotube series of videos? They were three videos outlining the problems with the dares etc we have been discussing, and YouTube's lack of response to the problem. They were deleted and the user who made them was banned, because enough people flagged the videos, despite nothing in them being inappropriate. And I think it's fair to assume that most of the people who flagged them are the type of person we are concerned about.

This is partly the fault of the people who own YouTube, for having an entirely automated process to remove videos; if enough people flag them, they are removed and potentially the user is banned, without anyone ever looking at the content and assessing whether it really is objectionable. Also, the people who send the kids these dares often use multiple accounts, allowing each person to flag videos criticising them multiple times.

However, there are thousands of people on the TMF. We can help by:
- warning users of the intentions of those who send dares, when we see it happen and;
- contacting YouTube through the YouTube safety centre, expressing our concern about the comments these children are recieving, and oru concern at videos like pedotube being removed automatically due to reaching a certain number of flags.

There are thousands of people on the TMF - if they can use numbers

 

[Comfort Eagle]

Remember the pedotube series of videos? They were three videos outlining the problems with the dares etc we have been discussing, and YouTube's lack of response to the problem. They were deleted and the user who made them was banned, because enough people flagged the videos, despite nothing in them being inappropriate. And I think it's fair to assume that most of the people who flagged them are the type of person we are concerned about.

This is partly the fault of the people who own YouTube, for having an entirely automated process to remove videos; if enough people flag them, they are removed and potentially the user is banned, without anyone ever looking at the content and assessing whether it really is objectionable. Also, the people who send the kids these dares often use multiple accounts, allowing each person to flag videos criticising them multiple times.

However, there are thousands of people on the TMF. We can help by:
- warning users of the intentions of those who send dares, when we see it happen and;
- contacting YouTube through the YouTube safety centre, expressing our concern about the comments these children are recieving, and oru concern at videos like pedotube being removed automatically due to reaching a certain number of flags.

There are thousands of people on the TMF - if they can use numbers

I'd say that of the thousands of TMFers that a significant chunk of them are probably ones that are sending the dares in the first place. Out of the thousands there are only a few hundred active posters, and most of them that are females often talk about crazy ass PMs they get from people with very few, or no, posts.

 

[mike273273]

What I find normal is some of the content on there between young people where they are fully clothed. For example an older sister tickling a younger brother. What I have found disturbing is that some tickling fetishists have made offensive comments on these videos like "you should remove his shirt and tie him up" etc.. I could understand if the lee was an adult and if it was boyfriend and girlfriend, but he is a minor! I have a tickling fetishist myself, but I do not get turned on by minors being tickled and would never make such a comment about a young person being tickled. Such clips being posted are fine on you tube as it is harmless tickling, it is just say an older sister tickling a younger brother. It is the comments that make it offensive. Posting that clip on tickling forum would be a different story as this is a fetish site.

Also there is this poster called big kahuna on you tube. He constantly claims that women cannot tickle guys. On this clip where an older sister was tickling a younger brother he said something along those lines, and criticized her quite badly. I think he even said what she should of done, eg remove the shirt etc It was just a funny between siblings! I can understand him maybe criticizing professional clips, but criticizing a sibling clip?

I think the dares are wrong too. Linking to what I just said. The clips I was just talking about are family fun type clips, non sexual. Its purely disgusting to have these people be turned on by them and dare them. Us here don't and we report them! Good on us!

 

[Comfort Eagle]

Also there is this poster called big kahuna on you tube. He constantly claims that women cannot tickle guys. On this clip where an older sister was tickling a younger brother he said something along those lines, and criticized her quite badly. I think he even said what she should of done, eg remove the shirt etc It was just a funny between siblings! I can understand him maybe criticizing professional clips, but criticizing a sibling clip?

I've seen him. That dudes a whackjob.

 

[PenMasterRule]

I think some people don't realize that these kids are called 'kids' for a reason. And there is a great reason why they aren't considered adults at the age of 12. I've seen several of these posts myself and they are disturbing.

 

[Powah]

As a community we have to be better than them. But the sad part is I don't think its going to be easy to stop it all together. Sure we can shut down these Freaks but its hard to say that we can stop it from happening all together. Remember if it exists in life it exists on the internet and there really is nothing anyone can do about it. More than do our very best to stop what we can.

 

[PenMasterRule]

As a community we have to be better than them. But the sad part is I don't think its going to be easy to stop it all together. Sure we can shut down these Freaks but its hard to say that we can stop it from happening all together. Remember if it exists in life it exists on the internet and there really is nothing anyone can do about it. More than do our very best to stop what we can.

You're very right. What's really messed up is vids that have full grown adults being tickled are taken down, but I haven't seen one vid that was created by a kid taking a request go down.

 

[Powah]

You're very right. What's really messed up is vids that have full grown adults being tickled are taken down, but I haven't seen one vid that was created by a kid taking a request go down.

The good news is, the video that sparked this thread is down so we can rest in that fact. now on to conquer the rest of the internet . starting with 4chan

 

[Ace Riley]

The good news is, the video that sparked this thread is down so we can rest in that fact. now on to conquer the rest of the internet . starting with 4chan

Good luck with that, not even Scientology could take those guys down.

Not that I would want you guys to. I was a kid when 4chan was created, as much as I would like to protect kids from the harm some people can do, I'm not one to patronize them or pretend they are incapable of making their own decisions.

Oh no, on the contrary, I'm one to believe far too many of you are unassuming of children, and overestimating of their own innocence. Do you really think some of these kids are oblivious to what they are doing online? That they aren't just a wee bit excited about these dares? How are you honestly going to stop them from uploading videos anywhere on the net? How are parents going to stop cell phone cameras from filming in the locker room?

Only decent kids know to protect themselves from this kind of insanity. Yes, it's very much the reality of the online world that we are surrounded by indecent children. You're going to have to start locking them up too if you really want to solve the problem, but you can't. They are innocent children, victims of this problem, not it's source. Heh, then again these are the words of the mainstream, and the online world is anything but mainstream.

We are the ones who realise this fetish should be reporting these people and videos. Parents can only do so much.

Oh and let's stop with this elitist concept that tickling is sexual to all being because it's sexual to us. There are people out there with foot fetishes and with armpit fetishes. Can we seriously for one moment pretend we're a real minority and that tickling to 90% of this planet is not a sexual act. I know a lot of you will be flabbergasted and shocked by this and huff and puff about it but I think our openness in this forum has kind of shaken our vision on what our fetish really is. We're going to have to stop kids from putting up videos of them at the beach lest someone online has a bikini fetish.

 

[PenMasterRule]

I don't think a lot of these kids fulfilling these tasks understand exactly what they are doing. I mean tickling for them could just be a game versus someone getting off on it. I mean you can't just assume they know people are getting off on it.

Edit: Then again I have to ask. Do you think just because they aren't exactly as innocent as they appear they should be allowed to do it? Or shouldn't be protected from making these mistakes?

Good luck with that, not even Scientology could take those guys down.

Not that I would want you guys to. I was a kid when 4chan was created, as much as I would like to protect kids from the harm some people can do, I'm not one to patronize them or pretend they are incapable of making their own decisions.

Oh no, on the contrary, I'm one to believe far too many of you are unassuming of children, and overestimating of their own innocence. Do you really think some of these kids are oblivious to what they are doing online? That they aren't just a wee bit excited about these dares? How are you honestly going to stop them from uploading videos anywhere on the net? How are parents going to stop cell phone cameras from filming in the locker room?

Only decent kids know to protect themselves from this kind of insanity. Yes, it's very much the reality of the online world that we are surrounded by indecent children. You're going to have to start locking them up too if you really want to solve the problem, but you can't. They are innocent children, victims of this problem, not it's source. Heh, then again these are the words of the mainstream, and the online world is anything but mainstream.

 

[Ace Riley]

I don't think a lot of these kids fulfilling these tasks understand exactly what they are doing. I mean tickling for them could just be a game versus someone getting off on it. I mean you can't just assume they know people are getting off on it.

Oh lawd...

Didn't say they should be allowed to do it, I just find it humorous that you think you can stop them. I'm not taking either side on this argument, because you're completely right in your desire to stop them... but the tools just aren't there.

You can go for the pedos, but I just wish people's perspectives on WHY they are defending these kids isn't based on the concept that they are oblivious and innocently going along with whatever these guys are telling them. You're showing your age and how honestly disconnected to the digital world with that thought process.

Lurk moar is really all that needs to be said. It'll be that which formulates the true method of solving the issue once and for all, but on that day the internet will be a very different place. I seriously do not believe the Internet will be a free domain forever. This world is far too keen on information control for such a thing to last the end of this century. So I don't see it as a problem that will last. Not forever.

Until then, watch your kids carefully, don't let them ever stay over at a friends house, buy them a phone with no camera on it or memory chips and have the only PC in your house be in your room. Oh, and they can't have friends with either of these things either. Make sure their schools use heavy protection on websites. Shocking, kids can go to 4chan and play WoW at school, did you know that? Digital cameras? Don't even think about it. Kids desperately want to be known to the world, plenty of kids have Myspace pages they don't even manage themselves, but do by Proxy through a friend because their parents block the site. Once this is accomplished, you'll be a good parent.

(If you haven't noticed, I'm kind of poking fun at the people who say "Where are the parents in all this?" Please. Have kids, stfu, and welcome to reality. It's not the parents fault that their child is a human being in a world they barely understand.)

Edit: Oh and I really like the Lolis in your signatures. Real classy with the topic and all. :3

 

[PenMasterRule]

I honestly got into tickling at the age of 15 myself. I mean I knew for sure it was a sexual thing with me. I knew that. I mean I'm not so disconnected that I don't understand that, but I don't think these kids can fully understand and appreciate what they are putting themselves through. It's like giving a kid a set of car keys. Most really do believe nothing bad can happen while driving.

So that's my stance on it. I don't think anyone looks at these kids as innocent children until the age of 18, but for me it's just them not fully grasping the situation they are in. Or putting themselves in.

Oh lawd...

Didn't say they should be allowed to do it, I just find it humorous that you think you can stop them. I'm not taking either side on this argument, because you're completely right in your desire to stop them... but the tools just aren't there.

You can go for the pedos, but I just wish people's perspectives on WHY they are defending these kids isn't based on the concept that they are oblivious and innocently going along with whatever these guys are telling them. You're showing your age and how honestly disconnected to the digital world with that thought process.

Lurk moar is really all that needs to be said. It'll be that which formulates the true method of solving the issue once and for all, but on that day the internet will be a very different place. I seriously do not believe the Internet will be a free domain forever. This world is far too keen on information control for such a thing to last the end of this century. So I don't see it as a problem that will last. Not forever.

Until then, watch your kids carefully, don't let them ever stay over at a friends house, buy them a phone with no camera on it or memory chips and have the only PC in your house be in your room. Oh, and they can't have friends with either of these things either. Make sure their schools use heavy protection on websites. Shocking, kids can go to 4chan and play WoW at school, did you know that? Digital cameras? Don't even think about it. Kids desperately want to be known to the world, plenty of kids have Myspace pages they don't even manage themselves, but do by Proxy through a friend because their parents block the site. Once this is accomplished, you'll be a good parent.

(If you haven't noticed, I'm kind of poking fun at the people who say "Where are the parents in all this?" Please. Have kids, stfu, and welcome to reality. It's not the parents fault that their child is a human being in a world they barely understand.)

 

[Ace Riley]

I honestly got into tickling at the age of 15 myself. I mean I knew for sure it was a sexual thing with me. I knew that. I mean I'm not so disconnected that I don't understand that, but I don't think these kids can fully understand and appreciate what they are putting themselves through. It's like giving a kid a set of car keys. Most really do believe nothing bad can happen while driving.

So that's my stance on it. I don't think anyone looks at these kids as innocent children until the age of 18, but for me it's just them not fully grasping the situation they are in. Or putting themselves in.

Can't say I blame you. I tried though. It's pretty wild just how big the rift is. I notice it widening every day that I get older. I try to keep up, but it honestly is so ridiculously tricky. It's like another fucking world sometimes has suddenly creeped up on me.

Oh well.

 

[PenMasterRule]

Oh well.

Oh well? I think my statement deserves a little more then that. I feel like I made a pretty good point.

 

[Ace Riley]

Oh well? I think my statement deserves a little more then that. I feel like I made a pretty good point.

You regurgitated the fact that underestimate kids. What else am I going to say to you?

You also cite tickling at your being 15 as a factor of understanding, but even if you're in your late 20's, I don't remember a lot of my age group being tied into the net like kids are today or how I was back then. We were "geeks" back then. I don't know you enough to confirm any of it so what else could I say on that?

You're pretty steadfast on the concept that they are drooling idiots doing these things without any concept of what they are doing.

There really isn't much to say, you've got a very widespread viewpoint and I threw a concept i'm sure I'm on the minority on and anyone who agrees with me would do well do continue to say nothing on the subject. Thus I left you with something to chew on, and you can go back to your torches and pitchforks.

It will be time that fixes this, and lack of freedom will affect us LOOONG before it ever affects kids in the digital realm.

 

[PenMasterRule]

Oh lawd...

Didn't say they should be allowed to do it, I just find it humorous that you think you can stop them. I'm not taking either side on this argument, because you're completely right in your desire to stop them... but the tools just aren't there.

Sure there is.

You can go for the pedos, but I just wish people's perspectives on WHY they are defending these kids isn't based on the concept that they are oblivious and innocently going along with whatever these guys are telling them. You're showing your age and how honestly disconnected to the digital world with that thought process.

I say go after the pedophiles and keep kids from posting this crap. If parents of these kids did their jobs we wouldn't have this problem. If parents taught their kids the difference between smart and stupid decisions then they wouldn't post this crap on the internet.

Lurk moar is really all that needs to be said. It'll be that which formulates the true method of solving the issue once and for all, but on that day the internet will be a very different place. I seriously do not believe the Internet will be a free domain forever. This world is far too keen on information control for such a thing to last the end of this century. So I don't see it as a problem that will last. Not forever.

Lurk more?

And lurk and do nothing really don't solve that problem you know. And it seems like you have a paranoid outlook on the future. I can honestly see you sitting around your house wearing a tinfoil hat wondering if the government is listening in at that moment.

Until then, watch your kids carefully, don't let them ever stay over at a friends house, buy them a phone with no camera on it or memory chips and have the only PC in your house be in your room. Oh, and they can't have friends with either of these things either. Make sure their schools use heavy protection on websites. Shocking, kids can go to 4chan and play WoW at school, did you know that? Digital cameras? Don't even think about it. Kids desperately want to be known to the world, plenty of kids have Myspace pages they don't even manage themselves, but do by Proxy through a friend because their parents block the site. Once this is accomplished, you'll be a good parent.

Being a control freak never solves any problems. You can give your kids this stuff, just teach them the right and wrong way to use it. I mean be a parent and actually teach instead of expecting other people to do it.

(If you haven't noticed, I'm kind of poking fun at the people who say "Where are the parents in all this?" Please. Have kids, stfu, and welcome to reality. It's not the parents fault that their child is a human being in a world they barely understand.)

Yeah. And I also noticed a few other things.

Edit: Oh and I really like the Lolis in your signatures. Real classy with the topic and all. :3

Yeah hi. These aren't Lolis in my signature. These are kids from a anime called 'Strawberry Marshmellow' and the reason why the girl is dancing is because she won a game of 'Rock, paper, scissors'. Not everything has some sexual undertone you know.

 

[Ace Riley]

Not everything has some sexual undertone you know.

How interesting that you would say this too. 🙂 Like a lot of the tickling done on Youtube!

Yet my interpretation of your sig fueled by my perverse fetishes can somehow make your signature into something far worse than it is. Is that your fault or mine? Is it the artists? How about the parents of that artist? Suddenly we get at the root of this issue, which is perverts enjoying harmless, nonsexual tickling done by RL Lolis who you feel don't know any better.

Can you see why I find this thread kind of silly in the first place?

And yes, they are Lolis.

 

[PenMasterRule]

Ace Riley: You regurgitated the fact that underestimate kids. What else am I going to say to you?

I'm not regurgitating any fact that I'm underestimating kids.

You also cite tickling at your being 15 as a factor of understanding, but even if you're in your late 20's, I don't remember a lot of my age group being tied into the net like kids are today or how I was back then. We were "geeks" back then. I don't know you enough to confirm any of it so what else could I say on that?

I have no idea what you just said here. I said that I'm 15. I liked tickling in a sexual way back then. I said this as an understanding to your 'innocence' rant. I'm saying I know it's not all innocent or ignorance on the side of these kids. But it is ignorance that gets these kids to post this stuff online.

You're pretty steadfast on the concept that they are drooling idiots doing these things without any concept of what they are doing.

I didn't say that. I said these kids don't FULLY grasp what they are doing. Sure I admit some might be doing it for sexual purposes, but they don't FULLY grasp the long term consequences. How could they at the age of 12?

There really isn't much to say, you've got a very widespread viewpoint and I threw a concept i'm sure I'm on the minority on and anyone who agrees with me would do well do continue to say nothing on the subject. Thus I left you with something to chew on, and you can go back to your torches and pitchforks.

You didn't leave me anything to chew on. It's just you saying these kids aren't as stupid as I and the rest of the world think they are. No they might be doing this knowing full well people get off on it. And they might be doing this not knowing a thing. And the funny thing about what you just said is I've heard other people use the exact same argument for opposite reasons. This one guy sent me a private note on youtube saying there is nothing wrong with requesting kids to do this sort of thing AND he used your argument.

It will be time that fixes this, and lack of freedom will affect us LOOONG before it ever affects kids in the digital realm.

Paranoid people have been saying that for years. When it happens it happens and if it does you won't be the only one raising your hand proclaiming 'I called it'. lol.