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Yes but it's very uncomfortable. You have to connect to internet every single time you want to see the clips again. This was the reason for me to cancel the membership
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it's sad.....
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Yes but it's very uncomfortable. You have to connect to internet every single time you want to see the clips again. This was the reason for me to cancel the membership
TickleFlix used to use Microsoft's DRM (Digital Rights Management), where your media player had to 'call home' for permission to play the clip.
They don't use DRM anymore, though some of their clips sometimes accidentally sneak out the door with that code included.
They don't use DRM anymore, though some of their clips sometimes accidentally sneak out the door with that code included.
Texas_Tickle
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casper said:
How many of you remeber A.N.A? They did this thing right. They produced vids and had samples of their clips as a free download.... they did not charge $4.99 or whatever to get a 3 or 4 minute "sample" of their videos.
If people wish to charge for us to see a "sample" of their works, that's fine.... but at least refund that if they decide to purchase the full video.
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I didn't have enough time to read everything people said in 4 pages of posts, so this might be repeating what's already been posted here:
Obviously making videos need money. Why? How many girls do you know who would like to be on a fetish video for free? Especially if it is going on the WWW! Plus all the expenses needed for the technical stuff and supplies and internet and...
But the thing is that the tickling community is not that big that we (on the forum) may think. There is a lot of people here but what proportion of the society? 1 percent? 2 percent? I just know that it's little. Therefore if we want to receive tickling materials we (people in the community) will have to pay for it and this is the only way we can support the people who make them. Otherwise there will be NO producer out there.
If someone wants to make a home-video just for the fun of it (of course it is fun!) and then spread it all around the WWW (this part may not be fun), then it could be free.
Obvioudly it is a good idea to post clips from old companies that do not exist anymore plus all the previews that have been posted for free by the companies. Hardly anybody does that anymore? Because it has been posted here before (maybe a year ago or something), but I think people who have them can start posting again. I personally don't own any because I recently had to clean all of my hard disk.
I hope this answered some questions. I am just a memeber of the community and don't produce any tickling material and don't have the intention to do so, this was just my two cents.
-TU
Obviously making videos need money. Why? How many girls do you know who would like to be on a fetish video for free? Especially if it is going on the WWW! Plus all the expenses needed for the technical stuff and supplies and internet and...
But the thing is that the tickling community is not that big that we (on the forum) may think. There is a lot of people here but what proportion of the society? 1 percent? 2 percent? I just know that it's little. Therefore if we want to receive tickling materials we (people in the community) will have to pay for it and this is the only way we can support the people who make them. Otherwise there will be NO producer out there.
If someone wants to make a home-video just for the fun of it (of course it is fun!) and then spread it all around the WWW (this part may not be fun), then it could be free.
Obvioudly it is a good idea to post clips from old companies that do not exist anymore plus all the previews that have been posted for free by the companies. Hardly anybody does that anymore? Because it has been posted here before (maybe a year ago or something), but I think people who have them can start posting again. I personally don't own any because I recently had to clean all of my hard disk.
I hope this answered some questions. I am just a memeber of the community and don't produce any tickling material and don't have the intention to do so, this was just my two cents.
-TU
In Support of the Producers
Yes, I admit I'm more of a lurker, and I also have no experience in producing tickling videos or anything like that. That being said, since everyone else is throwing their two cents in, I think it's only fair I get to. Besides, I have to say that I think a lot of us consumers get unfairly stereotyped based on the complaints of several very vocal objectors.
I'm very much on the side of TIB, Jeff, T2D Productions, Silver Cherry, et al. Personally, I'm a college student in the good ole USA, which unfortunately means I have very little money to spend on buying videos or paying for pay sites. Yes, I download free clips, but I limit myself to downloading only the previews that these sites release, figuring (misguided or not) that those are clips I have the legal right to view. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I don't enjoy seeing new free clips. I respect the idea that it can be a good feeling to work hard to earn money, buy a video, and know that the video is the reward for my hard work, but I think that most people wouldn't turn down something free, provided that it was legal.
That being said, where I differ from some of the other people who I've seen post on the TMF is that I would never dream of suggesting that the producers need to cater to me any more than they do right now with their releasing of preview clips and showing of images from their videos. And even if a site chose to remove all of those things, it may prevent me from buying it (more so because of the lack of images than the clips), but I wouldn't have any right to complain about it. As of yet, I've been unable (I emphasize the word unable; I would love to, but I simply can't afford it) to buy anything, so why should I, or anyone else in my position, have any right to demand things of them? Sure, everyone should have the right to express your concerns, but it's only fair to be polite about it. Besides, they have every right to completely disregard them. Maybe you'll call it bad business, or maybe you won't, but the fact remains that it's their decision. Clearly, they all know that, because I have yet to see any of the producers post on here complaining about how their sales are down and they just don't know why.
I, for one, hope that these companies stay in business for a long time, at least long enough for me to be in a better financial position to buy their videos. Just remember: those of us who applaud what you're doing may not be as vocal as your opposition, but we're still large in number. I just hope more of us are better able to buy your products than I am. 🙂
Yes, I admit I'm more of a lurker, and I also have no experience in producing tickling videos or anything like that. That being said, since everyone else is throwing their two cents in, I think it's only fair I get to. Besides, I have to say that I think a lot of us consumers get unfairly stereotyped based on the complaints of several very vocal objectors.
I'm very much on the side of TIB, Jeff, T2D Productions, Silver Cherry, et al. Personally, I'm a college student in the good ole USA, which unfortunately means I have very little money to spend on buying videos or paying for pay sites. Yes, I download free clips, but I limit myself to downloading only the previews that these sites release, figuring (misguided or not) that those are clips I have the legal right to view. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I don't enjoy seeing new free clips. I respect the idea that it can be a good feeling to work hard to earn money, buy a video, and know that the video is the reward for my hard work, but I think that most people wouldn't turn down something free, provided that it was legal.
That being said, where I differ from some of the other people who I've seen post on the TMF is that I would never dream of suggesting that the producers need to cater to me any more than they do right now with their releasing of preview clips and showing of images from their videos. And even if a site chose to remove all of those things, it may prevent me from buying it (more so because of the lack of images than the clips), but I wouldn't have any right to complain about it. As of yet, I've been unable (I emphasize the word unable; I would love to, but I simply can't afford it) to buy anything, so why should I, or anyone else in my position, have any right to demand things of them? Sure, everyone should have the right to express your concerns, but it's only fair to be polite about it. Besides, they have every right to completely disregard them. Maybe you'll call it bad business, or maybe you won't, but the fact remains that it's their decision. Clearly, they all know that, because I have yet to see any of the producers post on here complaining about how their sales are down and they just don't know why.
I, for one, hope that these companies stay in business for a long time, at least long enough for me to be in a better financial position to buy their videos. Just remember: those of us who applaud what you're doing may not be as vocal as your opposition, but we're still large in number. I just hope more of us are better able to buy your products than I am. 🙂
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Re: In Support of the Producers
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ok, i have read the first 6-7 posts and the last 6-7 posts (didnt have time/patience for the rest), but i think that the discussion hasnt advanced much during the 3 pages i missed. So here are my points:
Yes, i do agree that making films takes time, money, etc. etc., just like the producers say. But their point is based on the fact that they only make those movies to make money on it, and the question i raise is: do we care about the profit of the people who's main interest in tickling is the money in its production? i mean, yes, their movies are more professional (well, of some companies), and they are getting better, but i think they lost the spirit. I'd prefer a non-professional video filmed by one of the forum members that did it for fun, then a 90 minutes professional video with some ex-playboy star made by ppl who only made it to make money on it. Tickling is a fetish, not a product, you have to enjoy it and not buy and sell it.
yeah, i know there's a lot of bullshit in what i wrote, but i think that ull understand the general idea.
Yes, i do agree that making films takes time, money, etc. etc., just like the producers say. But their point is based on the fact that they only make those movies to make money on it, and the question i raise is: do we care about the profit of the people who's main interest in tickling is the money in its production? i mean, yes, their movies are more professional (well, of some companies), and they are getting better, but i think they lost the spirit. I'd prefer a non-professional video filmed by one of the forum members that did it for fun, then a 90 minutes professional video with some ex-playboy star made by ppl who only made it to make money on it. Tickling is a fetish, not a product, you have to enjoy it and not buy and sell it.
yeah, i know there's a lot of bullshit in what i wrote, but i think that ull understand the general idea.
just so you know....
the original post was meant as a lament, not an indictment, which is why i titled it "it's sad." that, and a shot at Tickleworld for implying fresh promotion for the same tired clip.
anyway, as sometimes happens, this thread went crazy...with people attacking and defending paysites...lots of off the topic drivel.
so...as author of the thread i decided to delete the whole thread, which I thought i could do according to club rules here.
i tried, but it didn't work.
just wanted you to know i tried.
the original post was meant as a lament, not an indictment, which is why i titled it "it's sad." that, and a shot at Tickleworld for implying fresh promotion for the same tired clip.
anyway, as sometimes happens, this thread went crazy...with people attacking and defending paysites...lots of off the topic drivel.
so...as author of the thread i decided to delete the whole thread, which I thought i could do according to club rules here.
i tried, but it didn't work.
just wanted you to know i tried.
While you do not need to file with the Govt Copyright office to claim copyright you do have to register it to file suit for any damages. Here are excerpts from the US Copyright office.
COPYRIGHT REGISTRATION
In general, copyright registration is a legal formality intended to make a public record of the basic facts of a particular copyright. However, registration is not a condition of copyright protection. Even though registration is not a requirement for protection, the copyright law provides several inducements or advantages to encourage copyright owners to make registration. Among these advantages are the following:
Registration establishes a public record of the copyright claim.
Before an infringement suit may be filed in court, registration is necessary for works of U. S. origin.
If made before or within 5 years of publication, registration will establish prima facie evidence in court of the validity of the copyright and of the facts stated in the certificate.
If registration is made within 3 months after publication of the work or prior to an infringement of the work, statutory damages and attorney's fees will be available to the copyright owner in court actions. Otherwise, only an award of actual damages and profits is available to the copyright owner.
So as you can see Mr Slant I stand by my original statement. I highly doubt that any of the video producers actually register their copyrights and pay the fees. That is why you never hear of any legal actions.
Eric
COPYRIGHT REGISTRATION
In general, copyright registration is a legal formality intended to make a public record of the basic facts of a particular copyright. However, registration is not a condition of copyright protection. Even though registration is not a requirement for protection, the copyright law provides several inducements or advantages to encourage copyright owners to make registration. Among these advantages are the following:
Registration establishes a public record of the copyright claim.
Before an infringement suit may be filed in court, registration is necessary for works of U. S. origin.
If made before or within 5 years of publication, registration will establish prima facie evidence in court of the validity of the copyright and of the facts stated in the certificate.
If registration is made within 3 months after publication of the work or prior to an infringement of the work, statutory damages and attorney's fees will be available to the copyright owner in court actions. Otherwise, only an award of actual damages and profits is available to the copyright owner.
So as you can see Mr Slant I stand by my original statement. I highly doubt that any of the video producers actually register their copyrights and pay the fees. That is why you never hear of any legal actions.
Eric
Thanks Rocking
Since the tickling producers have decided to pound on the Rocking for his clip posting, I for one would like to sincerely thank him.
I have purchased videos as a result of clips seen on the Rocking's site.
I have also purchased videos from TIB when they did offer sampling clips..which I was happy with back in the old days when companies offered a short sample to get you to buy a bigger product. I was quite happy with them.
Now I understand times have changed, but this thread has brough a bad taste of my mouth toward some producers that I will not deal with. I imagine the paranoia of sites like Rocking has overshadowed the idea that these small updates may actually lead to purchases.
As a sidenote, I have also purchased two clips from TIB over the past months. The first, TC 5015, was one I was very happy with. The only reason I purchased that clip was I had a small old clip with that same model...which I...once upon a time..downloaded off of the real tickling website from the old video for no charge when they were promoting their videos. The second, which was built up to be a models last time she would be in a video because the torture was just too extreme..was a disappointment. I'm sure producers will argue the negatives of these clips being shown for no charge far outweigh the positives, but I'll guarantee I will be a lot more apt to buy clips/videos which have offered small samples of their clips to be shown instead of making decisions off of hyping up a clip in words.
Since the tickling producers have decided to pound on the Rocking for his clip posting, I for one would like to sincerely thank him.
I have purchased videos as a result of clips seen on the Rocking's site.
I have also purchased videos from TIB when they did offer sampling clips..which I was happy with back in the old days when companies offered a short sample to get you to buy a bigger product. I was quite happy with them.
Now I understand times have changed, but this thread has brough a bad taste of my mouth toward some producers that I will not deal with. I imagine the paranoia of sites like Rocking has overshadowed the idea that these small updates may actually lead to purchases.
As a sidenote, I have also purchased two clips from TIB over the past months. The first, TC 5015, was one I was very happy with. The only reason I purchased that clip was I had a small old clip with that same model...which I...once upon a time..downloaded off of the real tickling website from the old video for no charge when they were promoting their videos. The second, which was built up to be a models last time she would be in a video because the torture was just too extreme..was a disappointment. I'm sure producers will argue the negatives of these clips being shown for no charge far outweigh the positives, but I'll guarantee I will be a lot more apt to buy clips/videos which have offered small samples of their clips to be shown instead of making decisions off of hyping up a clip in words.
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Damm This is really sad!!Someone b4 me said we are a small community compared to the world population.Boy, if that is true ,are ratio of sorry crying babies to the entire number of people in the community ias really high. The producers makes these films,short clips (whatever you want to call them) and incur debt so they try to make money back with selling product.If you have the money buy their product if you like it,if you dont like look for something else.If you don't have the money for it,ask mommy or daddy for the money. Hey you can even e-mail one of the producers and tell them "hey I like that clip I will trade you Fill in the blank (another clip,sexual favor, a family member,promise to mow their lawn, something that they would consider value to them.)Short of that they don't owe us a thing, its a business. A couple of days ago a SAG(actor) member let his friend borrow a copy of two majopr motion picture studio releases that are sent out to various people in the industry(sneak peak if you will). Well his brilliant friend put them on the internet. THe studios filed court papers asking for $150,000 for violation of infringement rights.POint of story is this: Lets say TIB waas universal film this discusion in regards to his clips would be over in fact wouldn't have even started.
One final point I have shared out of compassion of my heart for people who cant afford clips, and I know of the ones I do, most are appreciative. But there is one or two that are so ungrateful they have made it a point to e-mail me everyday and cry if I say no to their requests. It reminds me of what I see here. Sad truly Sad.Give them an inch and they want a mile I will continue to do so if someone e-mails me with request
Oh Btw if anyone who cant afford clips would like a free pass into a community let me know. IN fact the first e-mail me in my box I will mail you a pass. Its 9:40 a.m thursday --I would guess I wouldnt bother sending my name fifteen minutes after this based on number of people who are on site. I hope it is someone who can't afford clips but we will have to see.
I have bought several clips from most of the producers I am apprecitive --but I would ask maybe to consider a "buy 10 get one free program" Just Kidding or am I. If that were the case Tc video owes me about 7 or 8 clips LOL
I am aware that I am going to be ripped for some of my thoughts but it is an opinion and well, I wont go there.
Peace,
Ronnie
One final point I have shared out of compassion of my heart for people who cant afford clips, and I know of the ones I do, most are appreciative. But there is one or two that are so ungrateful they have made it a point to e-mail me everyday and cry if I say no to their requests. It reminds me of what I see here. Sad truly Sad.Give them an inch and they want a mile I will continue to do so if someone e-mails me with request
Oh Btw if anyone who cant afford clips would like a free pass into a community let me know. IN fact the first e-mail me in my box I will mail you a pass. Its 9:40 a.m thursday --I would guess I wouldnt bother sending my name fifteen minutes after this based on number of people who are on site. I hope it is someone who can't afford clips but we will have to see.
I have bought several clips from most of the producers I am apprecitive --but I would ask maybe to consider a "buy 10 get one free program" Just Kidding or am I. If that were the case Tc video owes me about 7 or 8 clips LOL
I am aware that I am going to be ripped for some of my thoughts but it is an opinion and well, I wont go there.
Peace,
Ronnie
Well from my point of view, I have around 10GB clips on my hard drive, and I would say about 80% of which, I have picked up for free along the way. However the 20% that I have actually paid for, from: Real Tickling (now TC), Ticklespot (now defunct), French Tickling, Paradise Vision, Magic Touch, etc. are vastly superior to the 80% of free stuff, which is why I keep buying more.
If people want to live off freebies, sure I will be down there with you seeing what's going, but ultimately you get what you pay for.
If people want to live off freebies, sure I will be down there with you seeing what's going, but ultimately you get what you pay for.
Texas_Tickle
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mrhm53755 said:
It also seems that many of the video producers are more intrested in selling "memberships" to their sites, and videos as a "sideline".
I agree with the producers. I buy clips from time to time from a variety of producers, even if they're not perfect, just to show some support. If they're isn't commercial demand and professional supply, the only place where you could view your favorite tickling fantasies would be in your head.
Albeit I am not convinced that the free content isn't all bad news for the producers. Those free clips - that are in fact legal copyright violations - have introduced me to some commercial offerings that I wasn't otherwise aware of.
Albeit I am not convinced that the free content isn't all bad news for the producers. Those free clips - that are in fact legal copyright violations - have introduced me to some commercial offerings that I wasn't otherwise aware of.
Here we go again.
I don't have the time to read these novel length posts about copyrights and clips ad naseum, so here is my opinion, which I have stated here before. The old community was great because everyone was friendly and shared clips and knew each other. This is no longer the case. It is a business now, and along with that comes the businessmen whose only interest in this subject and people connected with it is making money off of them.
Okay, I can accept that, because as this happens, the movies get better, more prolific, and you have things like tickle Japan, which shines in an ocean of muck. This isn't to say there aren't good American companies as well. I understand about the "biz" and copyrights, but what some are saying here (and I don't think the message is getting through) is that free preview clips inspire people to buy. I have seen far more poor quality or boring clips than great ones, and when I see a great one naturally I want to buy the whole video. If I can't see anything, no clip, no pictures, I WILL NOT buy anything. No one wants to buy anything sight unseen. Imagine buying a car this way! It's rediculous. Adding insult to injury is being asked to PAY for a promo clip. There may be a few out there who don't mind being parted from their money this way, but not me, and evidently not a lot of others either.
I wanted to lend my voice to those who argue for free clips. It is good business, not freeloading. I am extremely tired of people being called "deadbeats" because they want to know what they are getting for their buck. The "Clips" section of this website really no longer offers them, but advertises you to go pay for them. I've gotten to the point where I feel lucky if I find one free clip in 30 posts, and even luckier if that one will work.
This isn't a flame - I'm just telling it like it is.
I don't have the time to read these novel length posts about copyrights and clips ad naseum, so here is my opinion, which I have stated here before. The old community was great because everyone was friendly and shared clips and knew each other. This is no longer the case. It is a business now, and along with that comes the businessmen whose only interest in this subject and people connected with it is making money off of them.
Okay, I can accept that, because as this happens, the movies get better, more prolific, and you have things like tickle Japan, which shines in an ocean of muck. This isn't to say there aren't good American companies as well. I understand about the "biz" and copyrights, but what some are saying here (and I don't think the message is getting through) is that free preview clips inspire people to buy. I have seen far more poor quality or boring clips than great ones, and when I see a great one naturally I want to buy the whole video. If I can't see anything, no clip, no pictures, I WILL NOT buy anything. No one wants to buy anything sight unseen. Imagine buying a car this way! It's rediculous. Adding insult to injury is being asked to PAY for a promo clip. There may be a few out there who don't mind being parted from their money this way, but not me, and evidently not a lot of others either.
I wanted to lend my voice to those who argue for free clips. It is good business, not freeloading. I am extremely tired of people being called "deadbeats" because they want to know what they are getting for their buck. The "Clips" section of this website really no longer offers them, but advertises you to go pay for them. I've gotten to the point where I feel lucky if I find one free clip in 30 posts, and even luckier if that one will work.
This isn't a flame - I'm just telling it like it is.
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Re: Here we go again.
Have you actually checked the forum's video section? There's free new clips posted by some of the bigger companies promoting new material. Oh and please...the whole thing about all we're doing is trying to make money and that it's just a business now yadda yadda ...it's weak and is really getting old
Tiki said:
Have you actually checked the forum's video section? There's free new clips posted by some of the bigger companies promoting new material. Oh and please...the whole thing about all we're doing is trying to make money and that it's just a business now yadda yadda ...it's weak and is really getting old
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Can't help it............
I have to chime in and agree with Silvercherry here. Number one, while Silvercherry and T2D productions have never actually met, I can state with complete confidence that we are both in fact tickle fetishists ourselves. So, we actually do have a genuine interest in this subject. And as far as doing it for the money, I've got news for you. If that were the case, I can't speak for Silvercherry here, but I for one would have had to sell all my equipment and go live under a bridge a long time ago. If you think we're making a bunch of money doing this, I'm telling you now, you are dead wrong.
I have to chime in and agree with Silvercherry here. Number one, while Silvercherry and T2D productions have never actually met, I can state with complete confidence that we are both in fact tickle fetishists ourselves. So, we actually do have a genuine interest in this subject. And as far as doing it for the money, I've got news for you. If that were the case, I can't speak for Silvercherry here, but I for one would have had to sell all my equipment and go live under a bridge a long time ago. If you think we're making a bunch of money doing this, I'm telling you now, you are dead wrong.
well...
I'm honestly sorry I ever started this thread but I had no idea so many (misinformed, naive, paranoid) individuals would turn it into something else.
Again, it was simply a lament, not an indictment. I tried to kill this thread as the TMF rules say can happen, but...well...that's another story.
Anyway, I am GLAD there are pay sites out there, and I'm willing (and do) pay premium prices for the good and real stuff. Charging good money heightens the competition and there is plenty of that.
But, as with any other product line, there is also a lot of junk out there. Sometimes you just have to look beyond the countless ads to find the real thing.
I'm honestly sorry I ever started this thread but I had no idea so many (misinformed, naive, paranoid) individuals would turn it into something else.
Again, it was simply a lament, not an indictment. I tried to kill this thread as the TMF rules say can happen, but...well...that's another story.
Anyway, I am GLAD there are pay sites out there, and I'm willing (and do) pay premium prices for the good and real stuff. Charging good money heightens the competition and there is plenty of that.
But, as with any other product line, there is also a lot of junk out there. Sometimes you just have to look beyond the countless ads to find the real thing.
I guess it is ok for all of you producers to take advantage of the free advertising you get at this forum. Ask some of the companies that advertise on some of the tv and radio networks how much their ads are per minute. You produce a product yes but you have a unique advantage of a large "free" forum in which to advertise. I bet you would all be pissed if the owner of this forum started charging you all. Then we would really get some whine with our cheese.
Personally, I think the owner should charge. After all, do you give him free material? After reading many threads over the years I would bet my life that a chracter like TIB would give nothing for free to anyone. Not even to a guy who allows him to advertise free on his site. Although, I guess I could be wrong but I doubt it.🙄
Personally, I think the owner should charge. After all, do you give him free material? After reading many threads over the years I would bet my life that a chracter like TIB would give nothing for free to anyone. Not even to a guy who allows him to advertise free on his site. Although, I guess I could be wrong but I doubt it.🙄
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ceaser said:
You know, thats true. I was thinking about buying a 30 second spot to air on NBC during prime time advertising my tickling clips. But you're right, it's pretty expensive. 🙄
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Just so you know................
Ceasar,
We DO pay to advertise. The free clip is not free for us, it's called bandwidth. This board does not host the clip so why would they charge us? Just wondering if you understand that. Anyway, the board charging us would only ensure that there'd be less free stuff here than there is now. Then everyone would start attacking the board owners. How is that a good thing for you? I guess I'm missing the logic here.
Ceasar,
We DO pay to advertise. The free clip is not free for us, it's called bandwidth. This board does not host the clip so why would they charge us? Just wondering if you understand that. Anyway, the board charging us would only ensure that there'd be less free stuff here than there is now. Then everyone would start attacking the board owners. How is that a good thing for you? I guess I'm missing the logic here.
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ceaser said:
ceaser, i noticed a lot of your 8 posts, name me in particular, with much disdain. i don't mind that, it goes with the territory of being a producer. but... it's ok to use your regular screen name. ya didn't have to make up the ceaser name just to attack me anonymously. 🙂
i really like...
classic rock bands. Have seen Lynyrd Skynyrd 8 times, Styx, REO, Doobie Bros all a bunch of times. I like golf too. Have played a lot of the tough courses around the country. Would love to play in Scotland, but haven't yet.
classic rock bands. Have seen Lynyrd Skynyrd 8 times, Styx, REO, Doobie Bros all a bunch of times. I like golf too. Have played a lot of the tough courses around the country. Would love to play in Scotland, but haven't yet.
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1golfer's post inspired me...
i like to watch bird's heads move really quick as they scan the area while i'm feeding them bread crumbs.
i'm partial to yellow note pads.
timberlake and janet jackson (all the jacksons for that matter) are very annoying in so many ways. they should "leave."
ps- i like Styx and REO too. have the "best of" cds.
i like to watch bird's heads move really quick as they scan the area while i'm feeding them bread crumbs.
i'm partial to yellow note pads.
timberlake and janet jackson (all the jacksons for that matter) are very annoying in so many ways. they should "leave."
ps- i like Styx and REO too. have the "best of" cds.
