it's sad.....

[Hulk]

Just my 2 cents.

I think that it's sad that it's come down to all this bickering. It really has become one big advertising site. People losing money, or whatever it's just sad. I check in about once a month now...literaly...and it's always the same old shit. I use to check in every day. I don't even think the commercial shit is any good anyway. Not to knock any one because hey...your at least trying right? But it just does nothing for me. It's all so freeking fake. Fake laughter....fake everything. If anyone has ever pinned down a ticklish person before and tickled them unmercifully be it as a kid or whatever...you know that look in their panic strickin eyes and that uncontrollable laughter and begging. These videos just don't have that...it's fake. It just does nothing for me. The last and only good video lately is Miranda...it was real. I'm back to the same thing I had before I ever even found this place....the fantasies in my head. But at least there was more unity here.....now it's just a bunch of bickering and it's all a big profit thing now. Which I don't mind buying material...but Jesus, give us some REAL tickling will ya? This thread really said it all....it's all just sooooo sad. Sorry if I offended anyone...just speaking my mind....thanks.

 

[TcklishNips_f]

I agree with Hulk, this thread just seemed to show that the tickling we all loved has turned into some profit. I have no problems with people who want to make video's of tickling and sell them, but you have to admit that's a lot of what you see lately. But in all honesty it never bugged me that much, not to the point where grown people start to bicker about it and flame each other.

People are getting too irritated over this. We're supposed to talk about tickling and be giving out clips in this section and instead we're arguing about it. Is this clip really going to get us somehwere? Or is it just here for everyone to vent because they don't want to buy a clip for 5 bucks? About the Rocking I'm glad there was his site, he did have free clips and if producers had a problem with what he was doing they probably would have told him to take them down. He had an awesome site where I could watch clips I didn't have to pay for, meaning FREE.

Now because of all of us complaining and bickering he's taken his clips down. I don't know about you guys, but I'm bummed. I wish I could buy all those awesome clips out there that I've seen images of. And once I get a credit card you can bet your bottom I'll be sending out an order for some of those vids I've seen previews of.

Let's all be friends now and go back to what this forum was made for =)

P.S. Don't bite my head off for this. Just what I thought.

 

[P50]

Mods,


Close this thread.


All those in favor, post a similar short message.

 

[Guy_Zer0]

*RANDOM*

Woot! go flame thread! Woooooo go team.. *highfives all around*
-sorry had to be random

 

[klang]

The truth?

In this river of words, there's only one truth: some people (video producers) in the last two/three years understand that tickling is a good product, not only a passion.
So with the slogan "the more you pay, the more you get (and all your fantasies will be "satisfied")", they make a bunch of videos of any kind.
In the first time, just like the birth of internet in the tickling "history", this was an incredible thing and make possible to grow up a community like this, but today I think that we're finding in a very sad spiral.
In the past, when BAC and few others were the only source of tickling fantasies, I buy few things but with a great taste (only the wait to receive them by mail was wonderfully exciting); now we spent a lot of bucks only to see simply a person tickled, often the same scene but only repeated with different people. And we need always more because receive it in real time is a virtual "use and throw" thing, not a collector's paper-real masterpiece.
We REALLY need this or did we only make our passion for tickling fall in a consumerist abyss?
At the same time I felt this doubt, I decided to stop buying everything and restart from the beginning: to tickle a lot of people in my real life for the pure fun of torture someone and make him beg and cry for mercy, without spend a dollar and having a great time with my more close (and always the same) friends.
I think tickling is a passion and it have to be shared to be something with sense, if it's only a product such as a freezer and for all us it became more an OBSESSION, I don't like it anymore.
Excuse my bad english.

 

[Tiki]

Hey Silvercherry

If you're going to quote me at least use the quote in its entirety.

"Have you actually checked the forum's video section? There's free new clips posted by some of the bigger companies promoting new material. Oh and please...the whole thing about all we're doing is trying to make money and that it's just a business now yadda yadda ...it's weak and is really getting old"

That is you in your entirety. Either you didn't read any further or you just saw what you wanted to and stopped. I went on to say that I didn't have any problem with more companies making more videos as this means there is more and better on available all the time, that my squabble is with this thing of charging for clips, how this doesn't reflect the real world at all, and not many people would buy something sight unseen or pay for test drives of cars. I have checked almost all the new companies and have only found maybe three that offer free clips. My hat's off to them. When I know what I am getting I am far more willing to buy something. Whenever a clip is posted here that is good everyone jumps in to ask where they can get the video. All the others either don't offer any or charge for them. Back along the way you took an intellegent post from someone else and twisted that as well, asking if he thought you should give movies away when he was saying the same thing I was about clips. As for me, I am not personally attacking anyone here - just stating my opinion. Too bad one couldn't say the same about you and your cronies here.

Oh, and Rocking; Rock on, baby!

 

[redflare]

Agrees with P50

Mods, enough is enough, please end all of this and close this thread. Thank You

 

[SilverCherry]

HEY TIKI

I don't have the time to read these novel length posts about copyrights and clips ad naseum..


No, just time to write them

..so here is my opinion, which I have stated here before. The old community was great because everyone was friendly and shared clips and knew each other. This is no longer the case. It is a business now, and along with that comes the businessmen whose only interest in this subject and people connected with it is making money off of them.

~Yawn~ Like I said, it's getting old

Okay, I can accept that, because as this happens, the movies get better, more prolific, and you have things like tickle Japan, which shines in an ocean of muck. This isn't to say there aren't good American companies as well. I understand about the "biz" and copyrights, but what some are saying here (and I don't think the message is getting through) is that free preview clips inspire people to buy.

I'd like to know how you can honestly make that claim? How do you really know that? I mean was there a Dateline special that I missed? Because some people post "I only buy clips when I see free preview clips?" So it is completely outside the realm of possibility that SOME people would say that just to get producers to post free material, is that what you're saying?

I have seen far more poor quality or boring clips than great ones, and when I see a great one naturally I want to buy the whole video. If I can't see anything, no clip, no pictures, I WILL NOT buy anything. No one wants to buy anything sight unseen.

Umm..all the producers that I'm aware of at least provide the customers with images from the video thus debunking your sight unseen claim. So if you DO see images from the video, that doesn't account for anything? Can you name one video that does not have at least preview pictures?

Imagine buying a car this way! It's rediculous.

Tickling clips and...automobiles...ok....ok I can see the comparison. Thats not ridiculous at all. In fact, we have a 4 year financing option on some of our clips.

Adding insult to injury is being asked to PAY for a promo clip. There may be a few out there who don't mind being parted from their money this way, but not me, and evidently not a lot of others either.

What evidence? You mean those who have expressed their views on this thread? Surely you don't think you speak for the overwhelming majority who do not post.....do you? And not all clips are promo clips skippy. They're just clips. Alot of footage is shot now specifically to be made as clips, but you know all that since you know about the "biz" and all.

I wanted to lend my voice to those who argue for free clips. It is good business, not freeloading. I am extremely tired of people being called "deadbeats" because they want to know what they are getting for their buck. The "Clips" section of this website really no longer offers them, but advertises you to go pay for them.
I've gotten to the point where I feel lucky if I find one free clip in 30 posts, and even luckier if that one will work.

We post free clips when we can, in the meant time, we're all rootin' for ya!

This isn't a flame - I'm just telling it like it is.


There, that was your post in it's entirety, ya happy? Oh and thanks for the "cronies" remark. It gave me a little goose bumpy Sinatra feeling.

 

[ceaser]

Venray, I noticed you edited both of my posts. May I ask what exactly it was that you edited because I don't think I said anything there that required censoring?

 

[tickler_n_black]

Re: HEY TIKI

Adding insult to injury is being asked to PAY for a promo clip. There may be a few out there who don't mind being parted from their money this way, but not me, and evidently not a lot of others either.

hiya! 🙂
this is confusing talk. for example, our company offers 5 minute tickling clips for purchase. these are NOT promo clips! these ARE THE clips! the end product!
our 5 minute clips are not shorts from full length videos or dvds. so they are not a promo to anything. so... we're not asking you to pay for promo clips. we simply offer you to purchase THE CLIPS (the product).

🙂
no hard feelings here... but...
does anyone understand what im trying to say here?

 

[tickler_n_black]

Re: HEY TIKI

If I can't see anything, no clip, no pictures, I WILL NOT buy anything. No one wants to buy anything sight unseen.

🙂
well then its a good thing that every single producer i know show's photos of their clips and videos. we have 300 video clips and show a free photo and description for every single one.

(for us to create 300 preview, promo, clips is out of the question. bandwidth to distribute them for free would be staggering. so would the time and manpower needed just to create them. it actually takes about the same amount of time to create a 5 minute long clip as it does to create a 30 second clip)

ya know, if we DID have 45 minute long clips, or sold full length videos, then we would definitely create a free 60 second clip for each one. but for the possible sale of a $5.00 clip, providing even a 30 second free look is out of the question financially. at least for us.

just some information for ya that i thought might help.
🙂

 

[venray]

Venray, I noticed you edited both of my posts. May I ask what exactly it was that you edited because I don't think I said anything there that required censoring?

I believe that was answered by pm mr T.

 

[ceaser]

believe that was answered by pm mr T.

What in the hell does all that mean? Maybe if you could stop talking in tongues and email me at [email protected] and tell me exactly what I said?

 

[venray]

What it means, T, is that you should read your pms. I have no intentions of wasting my time in emailing you.

 

[bostonguy123]

I'll never pay a membership fee again! I ahte paying $18 a month for content, who knows when will be updated, and will it be any good. I WILL however, and DO pay-per-download of clips. The only company I can trust is TC and they will be the only company I buy from. $5 is a fair price point, $60 is way to much for a video Ticklingparadise! and I hate that I spent all that money for a membership that had not asingle update one month! I still want a refund for that. TC can attest that I buy clips all the time there, and will continue so long as the pay-per-download model continues.

 

[OBleedingMe]

no hard feelings here... but... does anyone understand what im trying to say here?

Yeah, TIB. I see what you're saying. Don't bother posting here anymore. These people aren't worth it. Let them stew.

 

[NinjaBoi]

I understand TIB

I understand what you are saying TIB. Hell I have alot of your clips (over 30). I will admit though I have deleted a few cause I wasn't happy with a couple, but I know the risks so I have nothing really to complain about. Generally your decriptions of the clips are very accurate. The pictures are pretty good to. I do miss the days of RT when you sold the vids, but I honestly think i am getting more for my money now. Don't let some of these guys get you down. To be honest I think alot of Movie producers should take your idea and just do clips. I hate waiting for movies in the mail besides this PO box crap sux.

 

[tomservo]

RE: it's sad

Hey Golfer,

I don't know what your problem is with Tickleworld, or why you feel compelled to constantly attack what we're doing.

I just want to set the record straight. In the first place, we are not pulling any "stunt", and our ad is not "tired" for those who haven't SEEN IT, now is it?? To consistently offer our sample clip (yes, the SAME sample clip) to new members coming to the forums is simply good business, whether you agree with it or not. Just like tklpervert pointed out in response to your post, keeping a sample on the forums gets you customers, plain and simple. Someone else who posted to this thread made a good point, and that's that people can decide for themselves if they want to join a site. We don't charge them anything to stop by and take a look. Just because what we do isn't to your liking, you've got no reason to keep up with the bad mouthing. We have hundreds of very happy members, many of whom have been with us nearly a year now, so obviously there are many who don't share your opinion. And you know what? YOU don't have to read our posts, nor does anyone else who has already read them or checked us out, so it escapes me exactly how the posts about the site or sample clip are hurting you.

We never claimed we could please everyone (and who can?) but at $5.85 a month and over a third of our site devoted to original material, we're still one of the best tickling values out there, and the VAST MAJORITY of those who join us agree.

Why don't you find something more constructive to do with your time? BTW, in case it slipped your mind, this area of the forum is for posting VID CLIPS, not for general discussion.


Tom Servo
"Many people who have survived near death train collisions say....AAAAHHHHH!!!!"

 

[1golfer]

"BTW, in case it slipped your mind, this area of the forum is for posting VID CLIPS, not for general discussion."


OK...so where's the clip? Nevermind, I've already seen it.

 

[Iluv2Btickled]

"BTW, in case it slipped your mind, this area of the forum is for posting VID CLIPS, not for general discussion."


OK...so where's the clip? Nevermind, I've already seen it.

LOL

 

[ceaser]

Yeah, TIB. I see what you're saying. Don't bother posting here anymore. These people aren't worth it. Let them stew.

Yea right, he stops posting here and he is out of business plain and simple. 🙄

 

[tickler_n_black]

Yea right, he stops posting here and he is out of business plain and simple. 🙄

yawn

 

[ceaser]

yawn

Truth hurts doesn't it. You can pretend you don't care but if you didn't advertise for free here you would have no customers. I am sure you will say that you don't get many customers from this site when we all knw that most of your business comes from readers of this forum. Lets try a challenge since you seem to be indifferent. Don't post here anymore about your new clips and see how much business you get.

 

[1golfer]

amazing......

so there TIB...na-na-na-na-na-na (sticks out tongue)

Hail to ceaser, and his legion of off-topic posters...Hail!

 

[Myriads]

You are asking him to prove a negative. That NOT advertising here would hurt a videos sales. That a near impossible statement to prove one way or another.

The best that he can do is proove that BY advertising here a video does better. And given exposure on Tickle Theater, The UK Tickling forum, and his own web presence that a lot of people check ona regular basis directly, and other sites I'd hazzard a guess that it doesn't make all that much of a difference. The community has a lot of ways to find out about things these days.

There is one solid reason why the clip form has so many ad clips, and links to places where you can buy clips. It costs too friggen much to host stuff.

I'd love to be able to toss a grand or two a month at hosting all the free clips you guys could download. But it's not in the budget. So the clip form is now a place that leads you to clips for the most part. And most of them are not free, it's just how the economics work out.

Free is not free. Someone is always covering the bills someplace.

Myriads