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Scenes of Desperation

I'm gonna be honest. The guillotine pics don't do it for me whatsoever. In fact, it kinda repulses me. The blonde being tickled by the old woman makes it for it though. ^_^

The only thing repulsive about that image is the fact that both the tickler & ticklee are animals.
 
The only thing repulsive about that image is the fact that both the tickler & ticklee are animals.

Seriously? That's what repulses you? Furries? Not the fact that if she lets go her f'ing head gets chopped off and there will be blood/guts everywhere?
 
Although I agree that the consequence in the guillotine images would be more gory than most of the other images posted in this thread, I wouldn't say that the outcomes would be any more gruesome. Take for example the two images posted in the original post in this thread. One is of a woman strapped to, what is essentially, an electric chair and the other is of a woman who is teetering on a wooden block with a noose tied firmly around her neck. I would consider the consequences in those images to be just as gruesome as the guillotine scenario.

In all honesty, I can understand the artist's interest in the guillotine scenario. I see it as true psychological torture as well as a physical torture. I'm very much into that kind of thing (although on a much less serious level where the consequences would probably be a jump in the tickling intensity). The only thing I would add is that there was a hidden bar or block in the guillotine's track so it wouldn't fall all the way and kill the captive. The captive wouldn't know this of course and would still hold on for dear life. It would really give you an understanding into how that person values their life. 😉
 
Although I agree that the consequence in the guillotine images would be more gory than most of the other images posted in this thread, I wouldn't say that the outcomes would be any more gruesome. Take for example the two images posted in the original post in this thread. One is of a woman strapped to, what is essentially, an electric chair and the other is of a woman who is teetering on a wooden block with a noose tied firmly around her neck. I would consider the consequences in those images to be just as gruesome as the guillotine scenario.

In all honesty, I can understand the artist's interest in the guillotine scenario. I see it as true psychological torture as well as a physical torture. I'm very much into that kind of thing (although on a much less serious level where the consequences would probably be a jump in the tickling intensity). The only thing I would add is that there was a hidden bar or block in the guillotine's track so it wouldn't fall all the way and kill the captive. The captive wouldn't know this of course and would still hold on for dear life. It would really give you an understanding into how that person values their life. 😉


I think the beauty of these scenario images is that they're ambiguous; Like that last Batman movie, you are left with every freedom to imagine what happens next. Adding on to what you said about the victim not knowing just how safe they are, my tendency (because I'm an optimist), is to sort of let my imagination wander to the scene where the character is rescued at the last minute.

I saw the guillotine image and immediately thought of her game's protagonist snatching the rope while the little minx doing the tickling is knocked out (and maybe even left to suffer the same fate?). I do similar things when I see Violetta's DiD pieces, lol
 
FireFoxSF said:
I think the beauty of these scenario images is that they're ambiguous; Like that last Batman movie, you are left with every freedom to imagine what happens next. Adding on to what you said about the victim not knowing just how safe they are, my tendency (because I'm an optimist), is to sort of let my imagination wander to the scene where the character is rescued at the last minute.

I saw the guillotine image and immediately thought of her game's protagonist snatching the rope while the little minx doing the tickling is knocked out (and maybe even left to suffer the same fate?). I do similar things when I see Violetta's DiD pieces, lol

Precisely. Every person has their own interpretation. ^_^
 
I think the beauty of these scenario images is that they're ambiguous; Like that last Batman movie, you are left with every freedom to imagine what happens next. Adding on to what you said about the victim not knowing just how safe they are, my tendency (because I'm an optimist), is to sort of let my imagination wander to the scene where the character is rescued at the last minute.

Peril is one thing I'll admit but when you make it next to impossible for a damsel to be rescued or escape on her own then you've gone beyond peril and into the realm of fatalism/gore...and that just plain makes me sick to my stomach.

Although I agree that the consequence in the guillotine images would be more gory than most of the other images posted in this thread, I wouldn't say that the outcomes would be any more gruesome. Take for example the two images posted in the original post in this thread. One is of a woman strapped to, what is essentially, an electric chair and the other is of a woman who is teetering on a wooden block with a noose tied firmly around her neck. I would consider the consequences in those images to be just as gruesome as the guillotine scenario.

In all honesty, I can understand the artist's interest in the guillotine scenario. I see it as true psychological torture as well as a physical torture. I'm very much into that kind of thing (although on a much less serious level where the consequences would probably be a jump in the tickling intensity). The only thing I would add is that there was a hidden bar or block in the guillotine's track so it wouldn't fall all the way and kill the captive. The captive wouldn't know this of course and would still hold on for dear life. It would really give you an understanding into how that person values their life.

I may be a fan for damsels in distress (aka peril) but ONLY when there is a CLEAR WAY for them to be rescued. As far as I'm concerned, fatality porn is just as wrong as hentai or gore porn and I personally find it disgusting.

Precisely. Every person has their own interpretation. ^_^

Interperation is one thing. Logic is another. A shinning knight in silver armor couldn't hold the string (and thus prevent the blade from falling) and also break her out at the same time.


Disappointing.
 
Rox_My_Sox said:
I may be a fan for damsels in distress (aka peril) but ONLY when there is a CLEAR WAY for them to be rescued. As far as I'm concerned, fatality porn is just as wrong as hentai or gore porn and I personally find it disgusting.

I understand what you're saying, but what I can't seem to grasp is how the guillotine scenario differs from a lot of the other desperation posts in here? Granted some of the scenarios don't have as serious a consequence as the guillotine one, but a lot of the others do. Take for example the two I mentioned, plus any of the cliff hanger scenarios and the man-eating plants. They all involve consequences that could be deemed fatal.
 
well rox if it makes you feel any better the creator said the blade was just rubber. I understand what you are saying, heck I do not really particular to those scenarios either, but I will not let a possible negative outcome ruin the pic for me.
 
Real vs. Perceived Peril

Perhaps the recent argument could be addressed by the victim thinking the consequences are more perilous than they are, so more psychological than real desperation?
 
Another contribution to the cause.

This cover art shows Yin trying to protect the prison room from intruders attempting to enter through the ventilation. Yin creates an ice shield around the grate so no one can pass.

Yang has other ideas, and tries to force her sister's arms down to drop the shield.
 
My two cents...

Budweiserbob... there is no difference in the scenario structure itself, but there is an apparent difference in the preference of the ending. This is where fans of this genre could be divided. I for one love the scenarios that are very consequential, but do not have the possibility of ending in a morbid way. The pics provided by obesklk have the scenario I enjoy. Where a lot of trouble is the result and not necessarily blatant death. It's apparent some people like that kinda stuff... I, and possibly others, don't. That's just me.

I mean, I enjoy a good desperation scene as much as the next...but TO ME, the thought of the 'Lee dying in a scenario where the odds are really against him/her overpowers the primary beauty of the tickling and therefore turns me off to the pic.


I know it's just all fantasy, but just think about it... a guillotine picture for example... the 'lee finally laughs (as genuinely ticklish people will do, as we all know) and ends up killing him/herself because they couldn't last... now what? Now you have a dead 'lee... no longer laughing, no more tickling (permanently). You ask yourself, is the concept of the picture still hot now? "Is it sexy to know that I may be looking at the final seconds of a 'Lee's life before they expire through a horrible death? " "I find tickling hot, but do I also find dying because of tickling hot too?" Because that could happen...

You may be thinking "Bombers, why can't you just enjoy the pic for what it shows?" "Bombers, you may be over-thinking this"... but, you have to remember that THAT is the very fabric of a good "scene of desperation". That's what separates this from regular tickling pics. It's the focus on what is going to happen more than what you can see happening, and those who are immersed in the desperation scenario will concentrate on what will happen to the 'Lee... and you'll either enjoy that result too, or be turned off by it. Honestly to me, the result of apparent death just doesn't do it for me when I want to enjoy the tickling more.... It's even worse when that apparent death is brought about by the very thing I love.

Now I will agree with Rox_my_Sox.... if there was a believable way the lee could escape, or had some sort of back-up opportunity (hero coming to rescue and such), then the possible morbid result would have less of an impact and I could find the pic enjoyable, because though the situation is dire, I can imagine the 'Lee will be alright somehow to laugh another day.

If not... then that sucks. 😀
 
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I agree with Bombers, when the scenario has it so that her bra straps are in her mouth and if she laughs her boobs pop out then that's a good scenario, she's not getting hurt just embarressed and if she does laugh she won't get hurt, her boobs may get cold but still. The idea that some one might get their head cut off if they laugh or fall to their doom IS a bit off putting, but the idea where if they laugh they'll fall down into a safty net or their pants fall down are relitivly harmless. MAybe it's my love for a happy ending but that's my thoughts
 
I agree with Bombers, when the scenario has it so that her bra straps are in her mouth and if she laughs her boobs pop out then that's a good scenario, she's not getting hurt just embarressed and if she does laugh she won't get hurt, her boobs may get cold but still. The idea that some one might get their head cut off if they laugh or fall to their doom IS a bit off putting, but the idea where if they laugh they'll fall down into a safty net or their pants fall down are relitivly harmless. MAybe it's my love for a happy ending but that's my thoughts

I'd like to second that notion. Gore and death have their places, I'm sure, and generally I like a bit of violence in my fiction...but not in my erotica. Too much of real life there for me.
 
I think there's a difference between some of the desperation scenarios that could be seen as violent and the guillotine ones, because there's more of an element of cartoonish violence to them.

A ticklish 'lee desperately hanging on to a branch while someone tickles their pits to make them fall reminds a lot of us of the old cartoons where a character fell off a cliff into a puff of dust at the bottom, and then appeared just fine again in the next scene of the cartoon.

I drew a scenario that I contributed to this thread with a muscled barbarian hero being tickled as he desperately tries to hold a giant's foot above his head to keep it from crushing him. Once again, death by crushing would not be pleasant, but we have those memories of scenes in cartoons where the hero is crushed flat and is fine again immediately afterwards.

However, with a guillotine scene, there's only one violent and grim outcome...the 'lees head gets cut off. There's really nothing playfully cartoonish about beheading, which is why I think it turns a lot of people (including me) off.
 
Another contribution to the cause.

This cover art shows Yin trying to protect the prison room from intruders attempting to enter through the ventilation. Yin creates an ice shield around the grate so no one can pass.

Yang has other ideas, and tries to force her sister's arms down to drop the shield.

...That was awesome! Thank you Oblesklk!!!!!:cry
 
However, with a guillotine scene, there's only one violent and grim outcome...the 'lees head gets cut off. There's really nothing playfully cartoonish about beheading, which is why I think it turns a lot of people (including me) off.

Well, if so, probably this is not the thread for you.

EVERY desperation scene imply a violent ending...

Even the "catoonish one"... yes, we saw that old cartoon when we were just children... have you any idea of the VIOLENCE that that old RoadRunner comics and cartoons implied?? The base idea is that violence = funny... I find out those old cartoon much more offending than some strips on an ADULT site... obviously the "death peril" strips HAVE to bee FICTIONAL, I mean draawned, because I'd hate to see REAL PEOPLE in a death peril situation...
But as for comics, that's ok to me!
 
Well, if so, probably this is not the thread for you.

EVERY desperation scene imply a violent ending...


Well, that's not entirely true, my friend.... as evident by the famous "hold the bra by the teeth while getting tickled" scenario. Or a scenario that involves a sexy baker that spent all day making a beautiful wedding cake for a client that needs it in an hour, of which afterwards her jealous rival sees her holding said cake and tickles the sexy bakers ribs to make her drop it. Neither scenario violent, but both a valid desperation scene.... 😀


and I believe from reading his response Achillesheelart IS somewhat okay with possible violent endings as he has drawn desperation pics that would imply a violent outcome. Heck most of us are okay with it, but what he and some others are saying is that the scenarios where death through grisly means is the clear and ONLY outcome is a turn off. Even IF it is drawn fantasy, even if it's not happening only to real people, the thoughts that the lee having no choice but to be killed, and the resulting carnage is a huge detractor from the beauty of the tickling.
 
Another contribution to the cause.

This cover art shows Yin trying to protect the prison room from intruders attempting to enter through the ventilation. Yin creates an ice shield around the grate so no one can pass.

Yang has other ideas, and tries to force her sister's arms down to drop the shield.
nice find, fits here nicely, keep it up
 
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It is not a find reeper, this is his contribution. And I would like to once more thank him(and his artists) and all of the other artists who have contributed to this thread. Much appreciated.
 
Well, that's not entirely true, my friend.... as evident by the famous "hold the bra by the teeth while getting tickled" scenario. Or a scenario that involves a sexy baker that spent all day making a beautiful wedding cake for a client that needs it in an hour, of which afterwards her jealous rival sees her holding said cake and tickles the sexy bakers ribs to make her drop it. Neither scenario violent, but both a valid desperation scene.... 😀


and I believe from reading his response Achillesheelart IS somewhat okay with possible violent endings as he has drawn desperation pics that would imply a violent outcome. Heck most of us are okay with it, but what he and some others are saying is that the scenarios where death through grisly means is the clear and ONLY outcome is a turn off. Even IF it is drawn fantasy, even if it's not happening only to real people, the thoughts that the lee having no choice but to be killed, and the resulting carnage is a huge detractor from the beauty of the tickling.


That are absolutely not classified as "desperation scenarios" in my mind...
 
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