Being On An Even Keel If Things Go Great,. Or Terrible..

[Bohemianne]

It is all there in the cracked ice... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaA...
It means move on, Mitchell. Try hard not to look back.

 

[Mitchell]

GQ, I dont agree with you, but I see your point. I think you're making it a bit too simplistic.

Tell you what, okay. I'm going to admit something. I've been in a terrible depression this year. Those close to the situation know this., Since last Feb 13, I found out my mom was going to die, lost my mom, reconciled with family I havent seen in 25 years, moved, had blowups with my dad, and now problems with Barney. This isnt to mention going through my mom's ordeal with her all alone. I came to NY physically and emotionally exhausted. I'm sorry if you cant understand this. My mom told me it took her a year to get over my grandmother's death, and she didnt endure the changes I did. She lived in the same place, had the same friends, and didnt have any tramatic reconciliations after she lost her mother. I walked into my father's cousins house 24 hrs after my mom was buried, and got attacked by them. I was with my mom every step of the way when my grandmother died. When my mom died, I was with her all alone, and didnt see any family or friends for 24 hrs after that. I'm a believer that people cant understand until they are in someone else's shoes.

kis, I understand what you are saying. All I did today was to post an update about what happened with Barney. Beyond that, no matter what is said, I wont reply to it.

Boh, I understand. Youre right, and I know I have to move on.

No more replies to this thread after this. Oh., and kis, I did "unsubscribe" as you said. I dont have the post notifcation checked. It just keeps remaining on the first page, and I see that people have replied to it is all.

Henceforth, no more replies to this thread by me, even if something with Barney does arise.

 

[coldneck]

I'm going to tell all of you something that maybe no one can understand.

I grew up affluent. Until I was almost 20, I lived on Sutton Place, in a 5000 foot house with a pool, and with limo drivers. THAT is what I was accustomed to. When I was 20, it was all taken away. I went to school, worked hard, and got good grades. I could not get loans for grad school, because our house had been foreclosed on, my mom could not sign, and I couldnt get them due to my taxes.

This is why most of us don't like you or sympathize with you Mitchell.
You've been spoon-fed your entire life.
You have no idea what it's like to really struggle and earn anything of value on your own.
You've been handed everything.

My realm: Parents ante up to make their children's dreams come true, at any age.

Your realm is not reality, man.
You'll find that out when your Daddy stops paying your bills and you're left to fend for yourself.

Your title of "Antiques and Jewelery Salesmen" equates to "I'm selling off my deceased Mom's old jewelry and other stuff".
It's not really a job or a career, Mitch.
And I think most of the forum and your family can see through that.
Seriously, you don't work for anyone or have a real income or job.
Stop trying to fool us into believing you do. [/QUOTE]

cold, one last comment to you. If there is a greater force, everything you wished for/predicted for me should come back to you.

End of story.

I'm gonna be just fine, Mitch. I really am.

 

[coldneck]

As long as the thread is continuing, on the subject of Barney.

This is someone who asked me tio cancel plans and change my whole night on the 30th anniversary of his dad's death, this past Jan 6th. I wanted to accomadate him, and changed calls with both Adam, and other family, to be with Barney.

This Tuesday will be one year since I put my mom in the nursing home to die, and went home myself. I dont anticipate feeling as badly as I probably will on April 4th, but it will be a difficult day nonetheless.

I had asked Barney if he could please call or just drop by even for a couple of minutes, so I could talk to him that night. He balked, saying he has "plans" with other friends,. Sharon, and etc.

I certainly dont want to disrupt his life, and I dont ever hold him back, but, for someone who wanted to hang onto me about something that happened 30 years ago, I think hes being a bit cavalier.

My aunt the artist, who is a very objective person, didnt think he was right, and called him a "flake", and niot a real friend. If hes not in touch with me both this Tuesday, and April 4th, I will remember it, and will not be supportive to him should he have a professional or personal setback.,

This is what I mean about being on an even keel, and treating people differently, just because one happened to be in a good period in their life.

Wow. He's really a dickwad, Mitch..

Imagine ... your friend having "plans" with his other "friends" and his new girlfriend "Sharon" ?!?
How dare he?

 

[Mitchell]

Your reply doesnt surprise me. I'm going to post one last thing to you, cold, then get out of this thread.

People who know better than you, cold, lawyers, etc, have told me that my father was the worst man imaginable. He did everything short of send a hit man to my college to kill me.

I dont know what its like to struggle huh? You know positively nothing. I went to college with threats of hit men from my father and his associates hanging over my head, where if I was to start my car, I'd wonder if it was going to blow up.

cold, I care not if you dont like me., I think you are the most uncivilized person on this board. I have never seen you post anything decent. Your posts show a complete lack of character. You wait for me to post something, and then post, again and again, uncivilzed things. Anyone who I mention acts uncivilized to me, is fine with you, because that is how you act.

What you do is come here to post your personal attacks, that are never sanctioned. The great supposed "Golden Rule" does not apply to you.

Even if I stop replying to this thread, as kis suggested, it will still go on for another week, because that is whats being allowed.

 

[Mitchell]

One final thing to you, cold.,

While my father had no legal obligation to deal with my taxes, the proof in the pudding that he wasnt comfortable with what he did is that he never said anything to anyone. Know why? He would have been humiliated, shamed, and maybe even forced to deal with it, because the people in his world didnt do such things to their children. All of whom went to college, and grad school, and whose dreams were supported emotionally and at times financially by their parents.

I never said Barney wasnt allowed to have a life. I said I didnt appreciate how he comes crying to me when things arent good, and blows me off when things are good. This has NOTHING to do with my father.

Once again you can feel comfortable, cold, say anything the fuck you want, and it will be allowed. My only recourse would be to leave the forum, something for whatever reason I'm not prepared to do yet. Was I in charge, with your history with me, you would have at least been told to stop with the constant personal attacks. When I approached girls in the wrong way, I was nearly banned and changed my actions, and publicly admitted my mistakes. You cant do that, because to you it is all about the attack, and the fact that its always allowed.

The Golden Rule: "Attack one member directly on a regular basis"

Quoted from the "Rules" section of this forum.

"Most on this forum dont like me" You know who likes me and who doesnt. I dont see why anyone would like you. You do nothing but post attacks to the same person, all the time.

"I'm an Attention *****. "

His constant carrying on about my life.

WHY does he do this? BECAUSE HE CAN. The "Golden Rule" does not apply to me when it comes to coldneck's history with me.

 

[coldneck]

You said you were going to unsubscribe.......so why haven't you?


I guess to some, negative attention is better than none at all. You're in one of the largest populated cities in the nation and you're arguing with screen names and cyber personalities. Millions of people in NYC and you only have two friends? And one of them allegedly treats you poorly? That's really sad Mitch....really sad. But keep the posts coming because this is really solving your problems right? Keep arguing yourself in a deeper hole, vow to unsubscribe yet keep responding to your "enemies" that keep attacking you.........yeah, sounds like a viable plan to me.


There really is nowhere else to go with this Mitch.....

Perfecto!

My only point would be "Why?! Why do you keep commenting when you swear you no longer will?"

The answer would be: because I'm an 'Attention *****' .

End. Of. Story.

 

[Mitchell]

Whatever the fuck you say, cold, youre the maven on everything.

Answer your own question: You could stop replying too, but you never will, because you have to get the last potshot in, knowing whatever you say to me is just perfectly fine.

If you think I like the position I'm in, then you are even more delusional than your posts show. I've often reproached myself for not staying in PA, taking a roommate into my other apt, and not having followed the path I'm on.

Your comments about my work and such. You know exactly what work I've done. I had a very strong resume to show employers. If those who knew the situation, came here and saw the comments, they would think the people (You_) who posted them were completely delusional.

 

[primetime]

Mitchell, dude, stop posting in the thread. I read all the pages in this thread which quickly derailed. Over all these years of you posting, there seems to be a common theme. You post something personal about your life, some people criticize you, some give well wishes, and some try to give you some very helpful advice. The problem is, unless the give nothing but a condolence, or just a quick "keep on trying Mitch" type response, you get upset and try to downplay any advice. People like GQ, Kis, even Leo have tried to give you some helpful advice about standing on your feet, take control of your life, and even stop relying on people who harmed you in the past, you go against the advice and stay in the same exact rut.

I have nothing against you. You seem like a good guy, just that you depend on a public forum to help you with your troubles. That would be ok, but all your threads about your life are the same flow. You talk about problem, people try to give advice, but it seems like you don't care about the advice, you just want people to provide empathy and that's it. But that's where the problem goes. You're not going to get that all the time. When your mother passed, yes, that was a thread for condolences and not advice. But all your countless other threads? It is the same thing, then some people post and you feel as though it is a personal attack, but in reality they are just trying to make it painfully obvious to you. Sure, Coldneck's posts come across as rude, but he is probably saying what some people think. Since people like Kis, GQ and even Leo do not seem to be getting through to you, Coldneck just throws a bucket of ice cold water on you and you do not like it.

Believe me, I have read your threads about the evil your father did, but yet you still deal with him as though he is obligated. You can say that he is supposed to take care of you and stuff, but honestly, you are a grown man. Time to step away from that crazy nonsense that you keep going through. Tackle your problems head on and stop putting it here on the forum. Tell me Mitch, despite the fact that thread after thread, post after post, you say that people are attacking you and that you will not post anymore in the thread and place people on ignore. You say that you will never reply again in a thread, then you do.

Just do this. Don't post any more personal issues on the forum. They turn out the same way everytime. Feel free to have fun in the forum, just no more personal stuff. You KNOW that it will turn out the same way, so just. Stop. Doing. It. It's like telling someone to stop banging their head on a cinder block wall because it causes you pain. You say "yes, i will stop doing that destructive behavior", then we turn around and there you are banging your head on the cinder block wall.

We all wish you luck.

 

[Mitchell]

prime, one reply..

Thanks for how you phrased what you said. I dont view it as an attack.

I dont believe that kis, GQ or Leo meant to attack me. I dont agree with you about cold. His posts are not a "bucket of ice water", as you say. They are vicious personal attacks that are never sanctioned.

The joke of this whole thread: My father, for all my criticism of him, agrees with my assessment about Barney, and told me not to take him seriously.

Henceforth, if I want to post something personal, I will do so in my blog. After how this thread has gone, I wont be posting something like this ih the main forum again.

One thing I just realized, and this is something I dont understand.''

Many people.. kis, GQ, etc etc. have told me to :stop replying to this thread,., or posting personal things on the forum". While I admit that this thread should not have been posted, why does everyone direct their criticism at me. How come not even one person said to coldneck : "Look, we see your posting history with Mitch. Your posts go beyond the scope of his threads. They are downright personal attacks, time, and time again. Stay out of this threads, your posts arent well meaning, and dont serve any positive purpose in the thread".

That has to make me wonder.

 

[C.A.B.]

Sometimes people cling to their misery because that is all they know and it is familiar. They fear the unknown and unfamiliar more than than they fear the demons that they are accustomed too. Some folks would rather suffer under the failure and abuse of others than to face the possibility of their own independent failure, which, with no one left to blame but themselves, would be unbearable.

But Life is risk; with all the rewards and punishments that go with it. Some choose not to participate in Life because they fear.

 

[Mitchell]

I'm going to ask all the people that were supportive to me when my mom died, one question.. (kis, Leo.. GQ, etc).

First let me admit something about myself: Let's say that I was wrong for posting this thread, and that all of you are frustrated with me for posting threads like this. Let's say I admit my mistake. You've all told me to let the thread drop.

With the evil things coldneck has posted in this thread.. and his history with me, WHY has no one said to him "Enough already" "You dont mean well." "You constantly personally attack Mitch." "Stay out of his threads. " You all tell Mitch how I should stop replying.. why is the same not said to him, by anyone?

 

[chicago]

You're kinda beating a dead horse with this thread. I mean, Leo, Kis, and many other people have already agreed or disagreed with every point this thread could make, yet you keep reviving it. You said that Barney was being awful, and most of us agreed with you. Then, for no apparent reason, you turned it around and started excusing his behavior, or explaining why you still want to stay friends with him. The only reason you'd do this is if you just wanted to continue discussing the situation.

One thing I do know, and I should have learned from my mistakes with the "Demonic Letter" thread from summer 2011 which went on for God knows how long. I should not have posted this in the main forum, as it then gets into a whole blowup thread for a week or two. If I did discuss it, I should have posted it in the blog.

kis, your reply doesnt make me happy, but I should have expected this. Its my fault for posting it here. I learned my lesson. No more personal threads, ever. I forgot about summer 2011, but this thread reminded me real quick.

The only way to control this is not to make any more threads like this.

Yup, that'll show me and everybody else. That being you keep suggesting that posting threads like this causes bad things to happen, then saying you won't, then doing it anyways, saying you won't in the same post as you give updates on the situation.
Fucking genius.

I'm not going to give any more updates about the situation. I did just do something, but I'm not going to post the details to open myself up for more problems.

Leo, I do have you on ignore. I simply click your posts to see what shit you post next.
The hatred in this thread is amazing. I have one person to blame for posting it. Me. Trust me, I learned my lesson.

Instead of airing my shit here, to get threads like this. Go to the source.

As I said, it doesnt matter. I've learned my lesson. In addition to doing what I have to do.. not posting threads like this will save me a lot of trouble.

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

Will someone please make this madness stop???

This has truly descended into the abyss!!!!

You keep saying you're not going to make these threads again......24 hours later this thread has all but completely imploded and it's of your own doing! You're one of the first to complain to the mods because someone attacked you but look at what you've done here! If you're looking for anyone to sympathize or empathize with you from this point, you're going to be turning over a lot of rocks!

You should've unsubscribed from your own thread and let the damn thing die instead of what you've chosen to do instead. I just can't make any excuses for your behavior at this point so I won't.

kis, one reply to you, and then I'm going to drop this.

My biggest mistake was not learning my lesson from past threads here like this one.

I probably shouldnt post this on the forum so as not to get ripped again

Your threads go on forever because you refuse to understand what the world is telling you.
If you respond with something that shows you still don't get it someone else will try and explain it to you. Hence making the thread even longer.

You said you were going to unsubscribe.......so why haven't you?
This thread dies as soon as you stop contributing to it.....or is that the point Mitch? You're getting some benefit from it or you would no longer contribute to it and it would simply die.

Boh, I understand. Youre right, and I know I have to move on.
No more replies to this thread after this. Oh., and kis, I did "unsubscribe" as you said. I dont have the post notifcation checked. It just keeps remaining on the first page, and I see that people have replied to it is all.
Henceforth, no more replies to this thread by me, even if something with Barney does arise.

I'm going to post one last thing to you, cold, then get out of this thread.

My only point would be "Why?! Why do you keep commenting when you swear you no longer will?".

Mitchell, dude, stop posting in the thread. Tackle your problems head on and stop putting it here on the forum. Tell me Mitch, despite the fact that thread after thread, post after post, you say that people are attacking you and that you will not post anymore in the thread and place people on ignore. You say that you will never reply again in a thread, then you do.
Just do this. Don't post any more personal issues on the forum. They turn out the same way everytime. no more personal stuff. You KNOW that it will turn out the same way, so just. Stop. Doing. It. It's like telling someone to stop banging their head on a cinder block wall because it causes you pain. You say "yes, i will stop doing that destructive behavior", then we turn around and there you are banging your head on the cinder block wall.

Nothing changes if nothing changes.

At this point, Mitchell, I hope you realize you are just proving the points of the people who have posted things you dislike and furthermore, at this point, you're just providing entertainment for those that dislike you.

 

[kis123]

Sometimes people cling to their misery because that is all they know and it is familiar. They fear the unknown and unfamiliar more than than they fear the demons that they are accustomed too. Some folks would rather suffer under the failure and abuse of others than to face the possibility of their own independent failure, which, with no one left to blame but themselves, would be unbearable.

But Life is risk; with all the rewards and punishments that go with it. Some choose not to participate in Life because they fear.

All politics aside..............

This is kis and I approve this message!

But thanks everyone for reminding me to unsubscribe (again) from this hot mess!

Mitchell just let it die already-hit unsubscribe and don't look back! And unless the Second Coming has arrived and it's announced on this thread, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF PETE, DO NOT RESPOND!!!!

 

[kis123]

Nothing changes if nothing changes.

At this point, Mitchell, I hope you realize you are just proving the points of the people who have posted things you dislike and furthermore, at this point, you're just providing entertainment for those that dislike you.

I think it was Kevin Trudeau (believe it or not) that said "if you need your life to change, then change your life." Sitting in front of a computer trying to convince a group of people in cyberspace that your take on life is right when EVERYONE knows it's wrong is the equivalent to "pissing in one's ear, then say it's raining!" It's excruciating to watch unfold in print and once it's in print, your thoughts are forever........and ever......

I wish the mods would reconsider and put a lock on it, but since they won't, Mitch is just going to have to be strong and allow this to die. Make a thread about the weather, current events, the latest recipe on Food Network....anything but these "I'm asking for your opinion but really only want to hear from those that agree with me" threads!

 

[coldneck]

How is the consulting job coming along?

Bwah Hahahahahaha!

Killer post of the Week, mon frer!

 

[coldneck]

Your threads go on forever because you refuse to understand what the world is telling you.

Just saying "you're right" isn't enough. Follow through is paramount. Know what an "askhole" is? Someone that asks for advice or opinions but always does the opposite.

Take responsibility for your life. Stop being the victim. Rely on yourself more.

GQGuy: I can't begin to tell you how much I love these words.

You deserve a few beers and some shots, bro!
BTW, thanks for your service. USAF FTW!

 

[Mitchell]

GQ, you and cold are the mavens of how the world should live. Fucking mavens on a tickling forum

I'm going to tell all of you geniuses something.

Barney read this thread., Know what his message to me was "Mitch, get the fuck out".

My friend the jeweler who knows about my "selling jewelry". Her reply.. "So the fuck what? Did your father write you that check". FYI I bought some of that jewelry myself through the years.

My former best friend's multimillionaire sister. Guess how she got her start? Daddy and Mommy gave her 250K for her business to start. Oh horrors!

Another friend who read this thread. (A girl). She lives in her parents house that she inherited, and knows that I lived with my mom until 42. (Oh horrors, and shes not rich, she just happened to have gotten the house) Her reply.. So the fuck what? She told me I have more character in my little pinkie fingers then some of you have in your whole bodies.

Tell you what, GQ, why dont you take some of your own advice. Rely on yourself to build some character and decency, because at this point it seems lacking in you.

kis, even if I stopped replying, it wouldnt matter. cold is allowed to go on until the cows come home, because the supposed "Golden Rule" doesnt apply to him.

 

[kis123]

This thread is a total trainwreck!

I said I wasn't coming back but it's like a horrible accident on the freeway, you know something bad happened, but you are somewhat compelled to watch!

Okay Mitch, so not only have you involved cyberspace in your personal business, you've invited your friends/associates to review your posts on a tickling fetish forum. Wow......just wow! I would've eaten glass and hurled myself from the I90 bridge before I ever would've done such a thing. But you have been so desperate for someone to give you sympathy that you'll pretty much do anything to get it even if it means throwing yourself under the bus. You are truly a social masochist.......

Now that you've shown Barney the thread, have you told him what's been going on? Did you tell him what you thought of his behavior? Or were you just looking for someone else to feel sorry for you?

Mitch I've been watching this for years and I always found ways to excuse your behavior but this time I just can't muster the energy. I have research to do, documents to help write, and people with real problems who need help. I just can't do this anymore; I've been in this thread for days trying to show you the error in your thinking and mindset and you simply don't want the help--you want the pity and I don't throw pity parties anymore. Not with myself and I'm certainly not throwing one with you. At your age, you should be doing something differently and I'm beginning to wonder if you don't change in your life. Maybe you're so stuck that you've become comfortable with the uncomfortable and are trying to sell it to the rest of us.

If you haven't figured it out yet, no one is buying what you're presently selling but you.

 

[Mitchell]

To answer your question, yes, kis, I did tell Barney about the thread. He knows.

My one question to you is this: Youve told me not to reply to the thread, and let it die. Fair enough. Why havent you told coldneck and GQ the same thing? They know the mods arent locking it, and are putting a stamp of approval on their behavior, but yet you think its my responsibility to stop. I've already deleted a couple of potentially inflammatory blog posts since this thread went out of control.

Tell you what, guaranteed, even if I dont post another thing in this thread, cold will go on for another week attacking me, because thats what he is best at doing, and thats what he is allowed to do.

 

[GQguy]

Listen to your buddy. Don't be an "askhole" to them too. It alienates people, and it loses you respect. Take a step back from here. Chill. Get your life together. Once things are better come back. Tell us how you've taken ownership of your life and we'll all celebrate with you. Even Coldneck will congratulate you...I'll make sure of it lol.

At that time too you can show me how you have more character in your pinky than my whole body...I mean that must be a VERY large pinky!! Lol.

 

[Mitchell]

GQ, if your post suggests to me that you are saying "Leave the forum until I get a life, and then come back, and you will all pat me on the back",.. No. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to let this thread die, whenever it does. Trust me, I've learned my lesson. If I were to leave, it would be for good, and as I said, for whatever insane reason I'm not doing that, at least yet.

 

[Mitchell]

GQ, guaranteed, if I was to post about starting my new company, XYZ Marketing.. (That wont be the name of it, even though Iam in the final stages of incorporating a new company) The following would be coldneck's reply:

"Daddy started the company for you, and it will just be a matter of time before you fail, and you will be living entirely off Daddy".

A blatant attack, that wont be judged as one. Such is why I wouldnt post about that.

You dont get it.. with coldneck.. its not about the circumstance, its about the attack. He takes someone who has had a very difficult time, and uses them as his attack target.

 

[kis123]

To answer your question, yes, kis, I did tell Barney about the thread. He knows.

My one question to you is this: Youve told me not to reply to the thread, and let it die. Fair enough. Why havent you told coldneck and GQ the same thing? They know the mods arent locking it, and are putting a stamp of approval on their behavior, but yet you think its my responsibility to stop. I've already deleted a couple of potentially inflammatory blog posts since this thread went out of control.

Tell you what, guaranteed, even if I dont post another thing in this thread, cold will go on for another week attacking me, because thats what he is best at doing, and thats what he is allowed to do.

Are you serious??

We are NOT in the first grade Mitchell!!

You started the thread......you can finish it!

GQ was trying to help you until you turned on him.....after he got frustrated with your behavior. Trust me, I know EXACTLY how he feels!

You let the thread go long enough for coldneck to jump in. He's been blunt, but not rude and he's not wrong either. We're all saying the same thing to you in different ways. If you want Barney in your life, accept him as he is because he may never change. If you don't like that, then keep it moving! But several days later we're still running around the flagpole with the same drama......that is exclusively your fault, sorry!

I'm sorry, the "askhole" comment was pretty funny.....but I digress!

Mitch, until you get in the mirror and start dealing with your life, you're going to be that hamster treadmill running in circles. Stop playing for sympathy and be responsible for getting yourself out of that rut.

And please stop caring about what other people think......be your own man; make some choices, step out and do some stuff. Fall flat on your face but at least stop sitting there and do something!

 

[Mitchell]

kis, I agree with most of what you said, but as for coldneck.. he's more than blunt. He's a downright personal attacker of me. I've looked over threads I've started over the past year,and, he has had NOTHING positive to contribute. Not a well wish, or a condolence, after my mom died. It's all been "You live off daddy, youre going to end up homeless". HIS comments, kis, NOT my interpretation.

And let's say I had a bit of a collapse this past year after what I went through? Maybe others cant understand it, but it happens. Remember, I dealt with my mom's illness and death ALL ALONE. She died in my arms, and I didnt have a family member to lean on for over 24 hrs. In addition, during the time in NJ in the summer of 2011, during which my mom and I both almost died, the Drs kept asking. "Mitch, whose taking care of you?" The answer..NO ONE

As for not being in first grade.. I know this. cold's behavior is like first grade, not mine. He acts like the attack dog, in many of my threads. .

As I said, I take the full blame for starting this thread. That is my fault, and I have learned my lesson. I will not take responsibility for coldneck's uncivilized behavior. He could go by the supposed "forum rule". "If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all". He has NEVER SAID ANYTHING NICE. This is my problem with him.

You're right. I shouldnt care what other people think. Three weeks of this has made me learn my lesson.